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Ukraine scandal Megathread

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Sep 18, 2019.

  1. fchowd0311

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    What is your profession? Understand whatever you state, someone on this message board will share it and will be able to tell if you are full of bs.
     
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  2. Rocket River

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    So Trump has his own super secret personal non governmental server?

    Rocket River
     
  3. NewRoxFan

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    trump's former dhs adviser, shoots holes in the trump whataboutism...



    And...

     
  4. Amiga

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    No, I think it’s gov, but only reserved for the very top secret kind of stuff. It has no connection to the outside and can’t be transmitted even over secure line, apparently. Can only move data in and out in person - physically presence is needed. It’s not intended for confidential or conversation with other world leader. Only meant for top secret. If the conv with the Ukraine was so top secret, and it’s not, we would have never seen even a rough translated transcript of it.

    The moving of the real transcript away from the typical storage (where these are normally stored) to this sever indicates an intended cover up. This and a few other phone conversation were reportedly moved there. The others were with the Saudi prince and with the Russian. It indicate the WH selected a few that they likely saw potential criminal activities and stacked them away and limit access to a few (very loyal) people.
     
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  5. No Worries

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    So you ask for a link that you have no intention of actually reading?

    The troll is strong in this one.
     
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    So it looks like some of the Deep State crowd are actually going to coming out in the open for this one. Very nice.
     
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  7. Amiga

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    The deep state is growing. It used to be only Clinton, then it includes formal Republicans, then it includes former tea parties members, then it includes former trump appointees, then it includes most American citizens. Soon the only people left outside the deep state is you and loyalist to dear leader. I’m sorry that you guys are such victim of the deep state but the deep state must win against corruption, cover up, lawlessness and a POTUS that has his personal and foreign power interest above American interest. Hopefully one day you see the light and join us. Cheers
     
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  8. Dubious

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    The "pressure" is Russians occupying Ukraine sovereign territory as well as aiding and abetting a civil war in their East. That's existential pressure for Ukrainians. Literally life and death, war or peace, sovereignty or capitulation. The pressure is there, you don't have to say it explicitly.

    Trump's implied threat was withholding vital aid until Ukraine yielded information Trump intended to use as campaign dirt.

    Your house is on fire, the fireman is standing there with the hose, except he won't turn on the spigot until you tell him who is sleeping with his wife, you're pretty sure no one is. The town paid for the water system, the truck and the hose, it's the fireman's job to turn it on. Should the Town fire the fireman?
     
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  9. Dubious

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    Self-truth is a complex equation of experience and ego. This man has had extreme levels of both.

    Self-righteous indignation is an intoxicating emotion.

    Desperate times lead to desperate actions.

    What might appear as insanity to outsiders, may appear as heroism to the convinced.
     
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  10. NewRoxFan

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    republican excuses for trump are getting more and more ridiculous...

     
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    lol, trump sends stephen miller out to defend him... with expected results...

     
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    Without Fox Trump is done and he WILL be removed from office.
     
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    China should really strive to be more like the independent nation of Taiwan.
     
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    You sounds like you get drowned and stuffed in the ****-hole.
     
  16. B-Bob

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    Oh, he still will have FOX overall. But he's never really had Chris Wallace or Shep Smith; each of those guys has a remnant solid journalist interior, from what I can tell. (And no, I-didn't-vote-for-him-but brigade, "solid journalist" does not equal "liberal." Sorry.)
     
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    they've already come out

    • the Trump-appointed IG for the intelligence community, who has assessed this complaint to be valid and an emergency
    • the Trump-appointed acting DNI, who testified to Congress that the whistleblower's complaint about Trump's meeting w the newly elected Ukrainian president was consistent w the facts
    • the Trump WH comfirming another claim by the whistleblower
      • that the transcript of the non-classified Ukranian meeting was stored in a super-secured storage, reserved for highly classified info
     
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  18. FranchiseBlade

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    Yes that is what Trump said while also explaining that he wanted them to cut down on corruption, mentioned Joe Biden by name and also about how much money they can get from the US. That is what Trump admitted to. The fact that he also said he put no pressure on them only shows he's a liar.
     
  19. NewRoxFan

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    trump decided to keep winning he had to join the deep state team...
     
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    He'll either not read it or just dismiss it entirely.

    This is a culture war for him, we need to #MAGA so that black women don't get supporting roles in a Bond movie and so that the SJWs (The real menace here) will stop ruining things like Mad Max and Star Wars!
     
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