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Ready The Clown Car: The First Batch of Democrats Are Ready To Announce Their 2020 Bids

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by MojoMan, Jan 1, 2019.

  1. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Wah wah wah, your dear leader is under scrutiny for his own actions again.

    The Congress is doing it's job, if he broke the law, he needs to be impeached......

    DD
     
  2. Nook

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    The Democrats are not losing the House in 2020.

    The Republicans may lose 1-2 seats in the Senate.
     
  3. Nook

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    So are you saying you are pansexual?
     
  4. dmoneybangbang

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    Sure thing Spartacus.
     
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  5. ThatBoyNick

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    Somebody actually ready the clown car for this one

     
  6. MojoMan

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    Amy Klobuchar clearly does not resonate with the Democrat's viscerally agitated, hate-filled far left base. As a result, she appears to probably be on the verge of possibly exiting this race early.

    But as a general election candidate, she would be far more dangerous and threatening to Donald Trump than any of the Democrat's current top three candidates are.
     
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  7. MojoMan

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    This is some r/selfawarewolves level stuff Mojo. LMAO!!!
     
  9. NewRoxFan

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    LOL... ok, I can understand your current desire to not associate any more with the republican party. I wouldn't want to either. But... you still need to own your voting for and constant defense of trump, no matter what you now claim to identify your partisan leanings.
     
  10. JayGoogle

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    How? You do realize that the country consists of democrats too, right? This opinion assumes that Klobuchur could even get Democrats out to vote, she can't. She's no threat to Trump, Trump voters and Republican voters are not picking her over Trump and you know that. Ask yourself if you would choose her over Trump, you know you wouldn't.
     
  11. MojoMan

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    OK then. Nominate Pocahontas.
     
  12. JayGoogle

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    She's a better person than that orange clown you worship.
     
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    This is baseless speculation.

    She won re-election last year by 24 points in a purple state while Heitkamp and McCaskill were getting clobbered in neighboring states trying to do the same exact thing.

    Her strength and credibility in the Midwest (aka the most realistic path to 270) is a legitimate argument to support her candidacy that’s unfortunately not resonating in today’s Democratic Party.
     
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  14. JayGoogle

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    It is baseless speculation that she would drive democratic turnout when she can't do that now. It's not resonating because to win in those states you still have to get democratic turn out, Obama ran on a progessive message, not "I'm not Trump, I'm more of the same," that she's running on.

    Primaries are like how the NCAAF used to determine who goes to the championship game. You don't pick a team with 5 losses just because they have one win against Bama, you pick the other team that is undefeated or only has one or two losses. The fact that she can't garner support to even get close to winning the primary tells me that Democratic voters do not care for her, that matters, that matters a lot more than Conservatives who think she'd be a good candidate
     
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    She also treats her staffers terribly and it's an open secret that she's awful to work for.

    After 4 years of moral and ethical depravity in the White House, I'm not voting for someone of questionable moral character in a primary.
     
  16. MojoMan

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    In that case, you will not be supporting Pocahontas.
     
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    The childish, racist name calling really make you look incredibly petty. Grow up.

    I've seen nothing to make me question Elizabeth Warren's character. A bad hit job in an attempt to drum up controversy about a mistake she's apologized for that happened 30 years ago does not make me question her character. For all the complaining conservatives do about "cancel culture" and railing against "political correctness" and whatever, you sure love to apply that stuff to Democrats.
     
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    In other words, you may very well vote for someone of questionable moral character. Gotcha.
     
  19. Astrosfan183

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    One mistake, apologized for, does not necessarily mean the person is of questionable moral character. A history (read, multiple cases over a large amount of years) of treating your employees terribly does. I don't know how that is hard to understand.

    I'll accept if you disagree and think it does make Warren have questionable moral character, but I do have to wonder if that is in good faith- If you liked her politics, would you actually care about the "controversy"?
     
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    As per my example from above (you know, actual evidence), she’s popular in her state and among those that know her. That matters. It’s a recent example of how she fared in a state that nearly went for Trump in 2016; surrounded by states that did. That region (along with PA) will determine our next president.

    It’s not unreasonable to assume with more exposure she would garner enough support and turnout to do the party justice. She got a small national bump and modest bump in Iowa after she went after Bernie in the last debate. It was the first time she threw any punches against a fellow Democrat; refusing to do so and focusing only on Trump up until that point. Noble...but also wasted opportunities, since these terrible debates are all about sound-bytes. She should have been more aggressive in the first two.

    Sadly, it feels like she’s running for President in the wrong era. She can’t give a speech like Obama, isn’t a social media superstar, doesn’t grandstand or pander and refuses to overpromise like the frontrunners. Sadly, that type of approach leaves you flying under-the-radar. And compound it with her legislative record (arguably the most productive member of the Senate), it’s kind of sad she doesn’t have national name recognition. Yet here we are.
     
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