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[WSJ] Editorial Board: The Ukraine Transcript Fizzle

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Os Trigonum, Sep 25, 2019.

  1. IBTL

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    come on guys whats the big deal
     
  2. JayGoogle

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    As usual, you stand behind Trump, even if he clearly broke the law.

    You always brag about how you aren't even for Trump and willing to call him out when he's done something wrong but I've yet to see it. Your logic makes 0 sense, you say you know Trump is a liar yet you always fall back behind him like a good servant.
     
  3. dachuda86

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    You have no actual evidence other than a transcript that doesn't show explicit evidence of breaking the law and some report that makes accusations from some person who won't even go on record and isn't verifiable. Weak sauce.
     
  4. JayGoogle

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    Again, you can't even ask for help from a foreign nation, that in itself is against the law.

    The president and Rudy already confirmed that they at least did this.
     
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    Lol wow the sopranos scene at the end. Absolutely perfect. You people should be embarrassed of yourselves
     
  6. dachuda86

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    the law being thrown around here bars foreign nationals... doesn't apply to trump... also it doesn't bar the president from asking for crimes to be investigated. Being a candidate does not make you or your family immune from the law or inquiry.

    So do you also still think he is a Russian agent?
     
  7. JayGoogle

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    Yes, yes it does. I'm not sure why you think it wouldn't.

    Yes, asking for another country to look for dirt on your political opponent in the upcoming election is clearly against the law.

    I don't think he is a Russian agent, I know he broke a law, period. He's willing to do anything to keep power as well, which is deeply alarming.
     
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  8. No Worries

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    Yeah but both are unapologetic, compulsive liars.

    So there is that.
     
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  9. FranchiseBlade

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    I know you are trying. But you are absolutely wrong about the law and about the evidence. Trump has admitted doing the things that are against the law. He came out and stated that he did them.
     
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  10. dachuda86

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    the only ones trying here are yall... this is a nothing burger that won't help the dems.
     
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  11. No Worries

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    Sig worthy.
     
  12. ipaman

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    Dig up dirt -OR- investigate crimes...

    Partisan semantics are fascinating.
     
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  13. JayGoogle

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    Crimes can be investigated within our country, you think we need Ukraine's help for that?
     
  14. fchowd0311

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    Not just that, @ipaman rags on a systemically corrupt system but for some reason is fine with a banana republic government where the leader of the country directs his law enforcement arm to whom specifically should be investigated.

    That's how Banana Republics run. A president wants to ruin the career of a political opponent and extorts foreign governments to find dirt waiving tax payer money as incentives.

    In a non corrupt system, if there is "there there" with Biden and his son, the FBI and the DOJ will open their own investigation without the direction of the president. They are big boys. They don't need the president to tell them whom to investigate. There is a reason why the DOJ runs independently of the President.
     
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  15. DaDakota

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    Now THAT is partisan.

    DD
     
  16. dachuda86

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    have you never seen countries cooperate on rooting out crime?
     
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  17. dachuda86

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    So people are saying it is basically hurting the election to expose crimes. Actually trying to bring truth to light is good for the election process. Same with Hilary's crimes. Why do dem voters get so mad about people exposing cabdidates for for shady activity? Ironic that they act like they care about the law.
     
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    How much damage control have you been on at this point? Like 3 years?

    Sounds tiring.
     
  19. dachuda86

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    lol how many smoking guns have you gotten blue balls over.
     
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  20. JayGoogle

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    Yes, the FBI could have investigated and still worked with Ukraine, the DOJ could have looked into it, Trump soliciting help from Ukraine is simply against the law. He's not king, he needs to understand that, you need to understand that.

    How can you claim to care about law when you willingly ignoring it?

    It isn't just about hurting the election, it is a pandora's box, as @fchowd0311 explained, this is how lesser countries behave, countries with corrupt leaders use foreign help to destroy their political opponents.

    You bring up Hilary, is she president? Does she even have power? The Democratic party has shunned her. The GOP celebrates Trump and licks the sole of his boots no matter the crap he steps in.
     
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