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Children of US troops born overseas -> not citizen

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Amiga, Aug 28, 2019.

  1. Amiga

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    https://taskandpurpose.com/military-children-born-abroad-citizenship

    Children born to U.S. service members and government employees overseas will no longer be automatically considered citizens of the United States, according to policy alertissued by U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) on Wednesday.

    Previously, children born to U.S. citizen parents were considered to be "residing in the United States," and therefore would be automatically granted citizenship under Immigration and Nationality Act 320. Now, children born to U.S. service members and government employees, such as those born in U.S. military hospitals or diplomatic facilities, will not be considered as residing in the U.S., changing the way that they potentially receive citizenship.
     
  2. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    I hate this administration.

    DD
     
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  3. HTM

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    Damn this is gonna hurt our mens soccer team
     
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  4. Amiga

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    Because they are us serviceman that work and reside with their family outside the US?
     
  5. Realjad

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    This is is only effecting about 100 people annually.. and fyi they can still get citizenship as long as the parent applies for them.. it's just not automatically done for them like before.

    The article you are pushing out is so blatantly misleading making it sounds like ALL children born overseas to US service members and government employee's are no longer considered citizens and that is not true.

    Post is another exhibit of 'Trump derangement syndrome'. There are several on this front page.
     
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  6. juicystream

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    Any child of a US serviceman should automatically be a citizen of the United States. It is a disservice to the child for them not to be.

    Edit: My son's half brother is one of those only 100 cases (no idea where you got that number from)
     
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    Yea, I am sure the people behind Task and Purpose have so-called tds... oh wait, its a military news source, so I suspect they do hate trump as much as the rest of us...
     
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  8. DaDakota

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    Then what is the POINT other than racism.....and the Republicans worrying they have lost the ideas conflict and are desperately trying to keep hold of power any way they can.

    DD
     
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  10. glynch

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    John McCain would not have been a citizen.

    Keep it up Repugs, when the wheel turns even your folks on the S.Ct will be able to protect your bs.
     
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  11. Amiga

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    Not that that makes it right, but where did you get this 100 people from? Link? Source?

    The article includes the full USCIS policy alert. A blatantly misleading article wouldn't do that.
     
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  12. Realjad

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    It's a disservice that the news is reporting it in-correctly thus causing un-need mass hysteria through all armed force families. It would be nice to have legitimate non-misleading news sources for the masses.

    The policy change is for naturalized US citizens serving in the armed forces who have not lived in the US for a required period of time. The children can still gain citizenship, it's just now the parent needs to apply for them.
     
  13. Realjad

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    the part where it states naturalized US citizens serving in the armed forces who have not lived in the US for a required period of time. Look it up on your own, Defense Department official said it only effects about 100 annually and they can still get citizenship its just now the parent has to apply for it. I'm saying 'look it up on your own' because its apparent you need to learn how to do your own due diligence on topics. It's not a good idea to just trust your everyday go-to fake news source.. and that goes for both indoctrinated party members.
     
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    So if it only affects 100 people then why do it at all? What is a good reason for changing this policy?
     
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    The no nothings will not understand and think their alleged billionaire boy has their back.
     
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    Remember when Republicans supported the troops? I guess defending Trump is more important than that.
     
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    Because thats how politics work. That's my guess. If you want to overhaul anything it needs to be done little by little, that's how the system seems to be. Trump obvisoley wants to end the ability for people to just fly into America to have a baby and fly out. He wants the citizens to be established citizens for their kids to be american citizens. China is reallllly bad about flying people over to have a kid before flying back, Mexico is bad about it too-- tons of other countries citizens abuse the system to get their children dual citizenship.

    It's similar to how democrats went to end guns, little by little.

    You find the little things people will accept slowly propagate & expand it from there over time.

    It's similar to how social security went from 'this money will never be spent' to 'the government can make money off your money ' to 'social security isn't sustainable because it's not the same system it was initially promised to be'

    it's how everything in politics works

    Thats my opinion as to why. Trump wants to end the ability for people in China and Mexico to cross our border, have a kid~ kid gains citizenship before flying back to their country-- or using the kid as an anchor for this country. Little by little~ this is why it effects naturalized citizens who haven't been in the country for a minimum period of time.

    I'm not saying it's right, I'm not syaing it's wrong. I'm just saying I'm truly tired of seeing misleading news.
     
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    This doesn't make sense. I can get freaking citizenship in Spain from my grandmother being born there lol.

    Not granting Citizenship for those born in the USA by non-citizens, I can understand. This is how nearly every developed country outside of the US and Canda operates.

    Not granting citizenship for USA citizen's children born abroad does NOT make sense and not a common law around the world. In most countries, all you have to do is submit paperwork that your child was born abroad and your kid is good to go.
     
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  19. Amiga

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    This applies too all US citizens, not just naturalized US citizens.
     
  20. Amiga

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    It doesn't automatically grant us citizenship. You have to go through extra hoops to get there. It's completely unnecessary. And if US parents failed to complete this before the child turns 18... good luck. And if the US parents does apply and for some reason, some US official decided nope.. good luck.
     

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