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The coming civil war in the USA

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by BruceAndre, Jul 28, 2019.

  1. BruceAndre

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    To those here who advocate elimination of the electoral college, what do you think will be the result of that?

    If that happens, there is no possibility that there will ever again be a Republican president. And, of course, that is the point of that effort.

    But if we effectively become one-party rule, do you not think that things are going to get heated and violent?
     
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    Just have a week long blackout and half the boomers will die. Civil war over.
     
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  3. BruceAndre

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    Heh. And someone paid attention.
     
  4. BruceAndre

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    I forget the state, but there was some sheriff somewhere that refused to enforce recently passed gun control legislation.

    So, the idea that the entire police state would not have some resistance or "cracks" within it is debatable, at least.
     
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    So yeah about that Bleeding Kansas take.


    Want to elaborate?
     
  6. BruceAndre

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    But what side are the boomers on? Nor is this just about them.
     
  7. BruceAndre

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    I did, elsewhere in this thread. The comparison is obvious. Smaller scale and scattered violence precedes the larger conflagration.
     
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    They provide confirmation bias to people.
     
  9. BruceAndre

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    And this is how people end up saying "how did Trump get elected?" "Who saw that coming?"

    You might have, if you have listened to anything else besides the MSM.
     
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    They terk our jerbs has literally already happened to 4 million manufacturing jobs in the Midwest. It wasn't immigrants, it was Siri and Echo.

    The four most common jobs in America are all set to be automated away within our lifetimes. Some of these jobs will be largely automated before the next decade is out*.

    Truck driver* (3.5M)
    Retail worker* (4.2M)
    Call center* (2.2M)
    Food service/prep (3M)

    These four jobs make up somewhere between 10-15% of our entire labor force.

    Then you have jobs that are starting to get into the crosshairs. Clerical work, accounting, receptionist, security, etc.

    The truck drivers alone are going to be a huge issue, and the Amazonitization of our retail real estate is its own unique challenge beyond just employment.

    These concerns aren't going anywhere. They will only grow more dire. Look back through history and it is impossible to reach any other conclusion that the future of human existence is getting our butts pampered by robots and algorithms 24/7. The process of getting there, though, may be quite painful if we don't start planning for the transition.
     
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    All-natural-not-human-induced heatwaves can be killer excruciating without AC.
     
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    Actually, I'll concede your point, to some or a large degree. This is what has happened in the steel industry in the US. It needs a lot fewer workers than it used to.

    I'll still don't see it taking over trucking -- too dangerous; too much liability.

    But the robot/jobs thing, I think is some what ancillary to this larger issue; although there is some tie-in.
     
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    It's something of a digression, but you know that people lived here in Texas for many years before there was AC. Not that I would want to.
     
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    Good thing it's survival of the faittest in Texas
     
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    Yes, it's about the lens through which you interpret what's happening in this country. Some youtube comentators have helped to shape your lens so that you understand episodes in current events as milestones in a civil war narrative. Now the Bundy standoff isn't about a dangerous crank evading taxes but about the clash between the liberal and conservative civilizations about our vision of governance. I don't see you endorsing or encouraging any war, but by proselytizing this idea about civil war, you add incrementally to its prominence as an idea and may find sympathizers by reposting them, so you're not really neutral either.

    I need to point out that the "cold" war between the US and the USSR resulted in many proxy wars and coups that caused deaths and suffering all over the world. The Korean War, Vietnam, the Soviet occupation of the Eastern Bloc, their war in Afghanistan, and CIA coups in the Middle East, Southeast Asia, South and Central America, even Africa. This "war of ideas and propaganda" caused lots of real bloodshed and oppression. It's not a good example of a low-intensity conflict. But it might be a good example for you -- Trump is squeezing the hell out of the Northern Triangle countries right now as a proxy for the immigration fight he's trying to win in this country.
     
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    I listened to this. While I don't agree with the environmental alarmism, or the advocacy journalism, it does recognize the potential of what I am referring to.

    And, yes, there could be some type of Katrina/Harvey/wildfire disaster that tags onto a larger civil conflagration, and makes it worse.
     
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    This is revisionist history. Almost everyone was surprised by Clinton losing.

    Trump bootlickers and Infowars nutters alike had resigned themselves to their fate in the final moments leading up to the election.

    Hell, you couldn't find a Trump supporter around here in early November.

    Even the Trump campaign itself didn't expect to win. Remember how hilariously unprepared they were for the transition and the post-election fallout?
     
  18. BruceAndre

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    I'm not proselytizing. If a weather man says "a hurricane is coming into the Gulf, and will be here in three days" -- is he saying "yay, hurricane" ? Of course not.
     
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    But doesn't this confirm the larger picture of what I am suggesting could happen? I think it does. You yourself described it as a clash of civilizational views. And that is what I am talking about, too.
     
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    Well if you mean Clutchfans, maybe; if you mean the Houston area, this is patently incorrect.
     

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