They could get (2) -1sts (protected) if they take Shumpert back in a sign & trade. No way Id give Gordon plus picks. Either way they're getting out of the last 3 years of Covington's contract.
it will be nice to see how the rookies play tonight... what if we found 1-2 bright spots? may be easier to let gordon go...
What would you prefer... S&T Shumpert plus 2 firsts for RoCo Or... S&T Shumpert plus 2 second round picks for Igudala
The Wolves lost Butler for nothing. Gersson knows Covington and values wings the same way Morey does. Morey described Covington previously as the one that got away. Think long and hard why such a needed quality player on such a good contract is available. He is a literal 1 for 1 replacement they got for Butler. Wings are like gold and someone is throwing one away? Why is Iggy available?
good question. i think that's fair value for both. i would go all in on roco assuming he's healthy. his defensive impact is 3rd in the league behind gobert and dray. he has more years left in the tank than iggy. however, i'd be happy to take iggy for 2 seconds as well, basically free, adds a lot of good stuff. deciding factor for me is to just get the better/younger player.
I’d rather trade for Okogie...dunno what’s the fascination with RoCo..can’t dribble, can’t get enough rebounds..only jacks up shots
Younger person to fit the Trevor Ariza role this team desperately needed to fill and never did, albeit with worse rebounding and better shooting.
Not true. We would have a very competitive trade package. Don't know who could beat it right now. EGo to OKC, Capela to a third for assets, those assets plus our picks to OKC. OKC gets EGo plus youngsters plus potentially 5 FRP's.... and gets out of the tax.... Find a team that would beat that and could beat that. Remember the Warriors are now hard capped... as are about a dozen other teams... AndOKC HAS TO GET OUT OF THE LUXURY TAX THIS SEASON AND NEXT SEASON! Nobody believes AD wil decide one year in LA is enough. Because its not going to happen. Good point. We are seeing that "more attractive opportunities for some players" include: 1. Having their own team/ franchise over being a part of a great team with co-stars of equal magnitude. In KD's case he actually prefers to be the primo figure on a bigger stage with an inferior team to the one he left and work uphill to win a single championship rather than to string together multiple championships. In Butler's case, he wanted the franchise and a city. 2. Going home. Contrary to Butler most guys have a deep affinity for their home town and their home town team. And if given the opportunity they relish and still fantasize playing and winning for the franchise they grew up rooting for. Melo Knicks. Kawhi Lakers. LBJ Cleveland. Kyrie Nets. None of that shows a fail on Harden recruiting. Those are simply competing factors to Harden's recruiting. Now factor in 3. The market - who is available to be recruited. Look at next year's free agency. Draymond, Lowry, Dragic, EGo, Millsap, Marc Gasol. Derozan, Otto Porter, Jr. and Hayward if they opt out. Not many max guys there to recruit. And some of those are repetitive with Harden and Paul. So the bottom line is the market isn't there largely for Harden to recruit. That's why a major trade is the likely means by which we upgrade. And recruitment doesn't mean anything there. You trade for a gut under contract and he plays with whst we have. Period. So Paul George for instance..... Doesn't matter what he wants. He's under contract. If he's traded he'll play. That's why our next major upgrade will likely be by trading for a guy under contract. Paul George Otto Porter, jr. Kevin Love Brad Beal Justise Winslow Marcus Smart Jaylen Brown Gordon Hayward Im expecting one or more from this list will be a Rocket by training camp. We have to show interest in trading for Iggy to prevent a buyout and cheap signing by a rival. And Iggy's expiting salary is the right size to fit into a three- way trade where Memphis secures a small asset and recoups another good sized TPE. I'd be shocked if we were willing to give up a first for Iggy elliot it being part of a much larger deal adding at least one of the guys in the above list or at the very least getting back the equivalent of 2 picks for one of Ego/Capela in the other leg of a 3-way trade. But he's still decent enough to make a sizable contribution to a playoff contender He'd be good in our system. Same deal with Covington. He'd have to be part of another deal thay got us back other more important pieces. He'd be the 5th starter.
Guessing it's because either RoCo is still hampered by the knee, or mgmt is on a dump everything except KAT and tank plan, and even RoCo's modest deal---seriously, 36/3 for a 38% 3pt shooter, who also Ds it up and gives you 5.5 boards, is a steal in today's market---is still too much for Wolves' ownership. Iggy? It's because he's old, Memphis isn't a championship contender, and Iggy fits in much better as a vet-glue guy for a champion, than he does anywhere else.
We would all be wanting out too. Because you could only possibly get hired to manage a team that was owned by James Dolan or Dan Gilbert.
2 1sts is a bit much though, no? Not like he's going to be Jimmy Buckets if he came here. On a team that has age and injury concerns, adding a 36 year old Iggy doesn't seem great.
If it was for sure he was healthy, 2 1st and Shump is worth it (marginally though). But there’s questions of his health so that’s too steep of a price given the question marks. 1st and shump sounds reasonable without knowing his recovery. IMO
The latter option. Covington is better than Iggy, but giving up 2 first rounders for him is too much.
Sounds like Ariza but fans wanted to overpay him lol. Covington is a better shooter and defender than Ariza was.
