You might not know Patriot Prayer or Proud Boys or whoever but you obviously are consuming misinformation from far right media sources who are trafficking in a manufactured propaganda effort to garnish support for ... whatever it is they want The State to do in the name of policing and military power. So you might not be a member of the proud boys, but you might as well be since you are gargling up their BS like hot dogs on the 4th of July.
You claim that ANTIFA sightings are as rare as UFO sightings? Really? They are regularly on the streets of New York, Portland and college campuses like Berkeley. There are videos and picture of them attacking people. Ted Cruz is not trying to turn the DOJ into an arm of the Far Right he just trying to protect people. Dobro, please do some research, even if you support that group you can’t ignore the fact that they are externally prominent today and are certainly not as rare as a UFO sighting. They have been openly defended by vary prominent left wing media (Don Lemon) and multiple left wing politicians. The mainstream Republican Party and mainstream conservatives absolutely sees them as a public threat. They set up road blocks, attack citizens and terrorize homes of people they don’t agree with. There is no place in society for them and they should be dealt with.
I thought we were arguing facts, not moral high ground. If we were arguing moral high ground then you gave it all up forever when you peddled the whole Nazis and the Klan are the same as Antifa garbage. Pretty embarrassing.
So are you saying that video was staged? Are you saying that you’ve never watched a video on You Tube without researching the person that posted it? Don’t fall in the trap of trivializing any hate based group that terrorizes people. There is nothing wrong with calling all of them out as wrong. ANTIFA terrorizes people and should be stopped. I don’t know anything about Patriot Prayer, perhaps they are all things bad. If so there is no place for them either.
Good lord you are lost my friend. Listen to yourself. And you are right about the mainstream Republican Party unfortunately. And you hit my point right on the head when you closed your statement with “and THEY should be dealt with”. A. Do you even know who “They” are? B. You don’t know you are saying it but you are openly saying the Republicans in charge of policing should round up leaders of left groups who you can qualify as “Antifa/terrorist” and remove any trace of dissent. That’s freaking scary man. You are dangerously manipulated and truly lost. I hope for the sake of our country your level of misinformation doesn’t make it out of your far right circles.
You obviously didn’t even watch the Vice piece. Yes it’s setup to manufacture what those groups can sell as “Antifa”. Go watch the video and see exactly what groups are organizing the counter protest. It’s not “Antifa” as a single entity. Patriot Prayer keeps going back to Portland and Berkeley and widely advertising it... obviously advertising it to draw crowds from the other side so he can then stage and video tape a dust up. Then fool schmucks online like yourself. Yeah... it’s real people and the dust up really happened but it was obviously manufactured to create pure far right classic Neo Nazi propaganda you are taking a big bite out of.
That’s not what I’m saying at all. It’s easy, just make sure the police enforce the laws at hand. Do you realize the mayor of Portland instructed his police to stand down instead of arresting violent ANTIFA members in Portland? That is what Ted Cruz is trying to deal with. Police on site during the violence that are not protecting the people getting attacked. They are also not ensuring that ANTIFA protests remain peaceful. If the protest gets out of hand arrest the people getting out of hand. The problem is that you see mobs of ANTIFA members attacking single people in public with police close by and they do nothing.
Well, I researched the last Patriot Prayer (aforementioned Republican hate group and terrorists by some people's definitions) protest in Portland and apparently, evil terrorists from Antifa were bludgeoning old white folks like it was going out of style. Your boy Tucker Carlson's crew was quick with the propaganda. SHOCKING! And... then the truth came out. Ole boy showed up with a steel baton, never tried to help anyone in a sun dress, and actually charged, with his baton, a group of young men who proceeded to kick his ass. Another terrorist incident in the trash can.
Not sure why your pretending that the ANTIFA violence is manufactured. Not even mainstream left media such as Don Lemon denies it. He actually defended it on CNN one night. There are plenty of videos of ANTIFA all dressed in black with helmets, weapons and flags. Not manufactured Not manufactured Also not manufactured. The guy below was attacked for doing nothing but recording the event. The milkshakes contained wet cement and he ended up in the hospital. Also not manufactured Attacking a police officer Not exactly as rare as a UFO sighting
And what was Andy Ngo’s big crime that was responsible for his but whopping from ANTIFA that sent him to the hospital on that same day? The milk shakes were full of wet cement. All he was doing was recording the event.
I know you don't know this because you just watch Tucker Carlson videos and whatever YouTube nonsense pops up but in reality, hate crimes, which I assume are the acts hate groups commit, are federally defined as committed on the basis of a person's protected characteristics of race, religion, ethnicity, nationality, gender, sexual orientation, gender identity, and disability. So unless it's your contention that conservatism, white nationalism, Nazism, the Klan, and the varied white hate groups are a disability (and I could probably be persuaded to that argument ) then your repeated contention in this thread actually holds no water. Now I gots to go pick up my welfare check and get some hot dogs with my EBT card like all us low IQ latino victims do on the 4th.
Damn dude, you couldn't even acknowledge all the lying bullshit from your boy Tucker Carlson before moving on to the next terrorism charge on your playlist. LOL That's another difference between you and me. It's a lot easier for you to post garbage than for me to research it and prove its garbage.
Hey crash, we get it, you're pro-fascist. I'm not a big fan. I think I'll stick with those who oppose fascism.
Here’s exhibit A. of what the true outcome of this propaganda effort is truly trying to generate. A push in the general public sentiment for a police effort for political purposes. The end goal is obvious. Garnish enough public support to allow the DOJ to work on behalf of the far right to go after the lefts ability to organize. I’m not talking about Antifa here either. I’m talking about using Antifa as a blanket to go after groups like BLM, Indivisible, etc. This is the playbook stolen from post WW1 fascist leaders in Europe. It’s not even that well repackaged for the 21st century. It’s the same thing regurgitated. If a far left protester attacks a peaceful protester on the right the police should arrest them. That’s clear. I don’t care about that. I care about the propaganda effort manufactured from one or two instances that gets blown up by social and then mainstream media which turns into a new DOJ taskforce signed off by Bill Fing Barr. Even Ted Cruz sounds on board with this plan now. That’s the end game here. Political power by using the state. We have concentration camps at the border. Do we really think this is such a far cry thing to imagine possible? Astrodome.. I think of you as one of the more rational Trump voters here. I’m not saying you guys should vote for Biden and join your local BLM group. I don’t care that you are pro life and believe in states rights. That’s all great and fine and dandy. I just want you guys to pump the freaking breaks for a second and realize the historical precedent here. You are potentially sanctioning off on some truly terrible crap and unwittingly contributing to a horrifically motivated propaganda effort. Just pump the breaks to two seconds please.
The fact that i posted about their masks has nothing to do with anyone but folks who wear masks. Left or right. In this case, antifa. I have posted about these masks before. Your wall of text is well intentioned, misguided, and misplaced.
You don’t know what a fascist is. Definition of fascism 1often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition Fascism sucks and has its roots in socialism. ANTIFA literally follows fascist ideology every time they try to forcibly suppress conversations or political ideologies that they don’t agree with. People who wan’t to suppress 1st amendment rights and impose hate speech crimes are fascists. People who wan’t remove 2nd amendment rights because they don’t like guns are fascists. People who want fewer individual rights giving more power to the government are fascists. People higher taxes and forced redistribution of wealth controlled by the government are fascists. Expecting the government to protect the safety and rights of its people is not fascism. I’m not a fascist. If you have evidence of that present it.