Israel is a nation state. Are Jewish people who consider the right wing government of Israel as evil and oppressive to Palestinians anti-Semitic? Is a US politician anti-Shia when they say the Iranian regime is evil? Is Omar Islamophobic for stating that Muslims should boycott Hajj because Saudi is a oppressive evil regime?
I know this is going to come as a shock to you but Jews live in Israel. It’s kind of hard to separate the two. But please continue to out yourself.
Jews live in lots of countries, including the United States (ie my mother and her entire family after they came here from Germany). This may shock you, but a lot of Muslims also live in Israel. As do Christians. But, just because the majority of people that live in Israel are Jewish, its not a state religion. And its possible talk about Israel the country and not be talking about Jewish people.
So one is allowed to criticize any country but Israel - in which case it's anti-Semitism? Even the head of the ADL (Anti-Defamation League) has stated they haven't said anything anti-Semitic. He has criticized their lack of knowledge though. Fair criticism is fair criticism. And while they do step on sensitivities, that's far less than what conservatives do. Except when anyone complains about people taking issue with what conservatives say is the "PC Police". But now when you try to totally invent an issue that even mainstream Jewish groups aren't saying...you show your hypocrisy in the worst way.
Washington Post turning on ANTIFA Antifa protesters couldn’t find any fascists at Unite the Right — and harassed the press instead By Avi Selk August 14, 2018 Antifascists, according to their own doctrine, fight fascism. Sounds simple enough. Granted, members of the loosely organized antifa movement define “fascism” vaguely — to include not just Nazis and neo-Nazis but also white supremacists, white nationalists and the broader population of racists. As for the fighting, antifa takes that part of the doctrine literally. Claiming that even a small public gathering of fascists is a threat to freedom, the movement condones physical violence against them. Its anonymous, black-clad members routinely crash far-right demonstrations to brawl. So — you might expect that when antifa can’t find any fascists, it has nothing to fight. That seemed to be the situation this weekend, when a long-planned rally for far-right extremists fizzled into a paltry gathering of a few dozen white supremacists, unapproachable and nearly invisible behind a police blockade as they met without incident in a Washington, D.C., park. And yet antifa still managed to fight — not fascists this time, but reporters. A few blocks away from the main event — about 40 racists surrounded by thousands of protesters at Lafayette Square — several dozen masked antifa members marched up 13th Street NW in the early afternoon. They carried the movement’s red-and-black flag, and some wore makeshift body armor, even though no fascists were anywhere in sight. When a Washington Post reporter tried to interview the antifascists, they refused to speak. When he followed them up the street with his cellphone camera, one of them shoved a black umbrella into his lens and several shouted: “No photos!” “This can harm us,” one of the protesters said, just before someone swatted the reporter’s iPhone out of his hand and threw it into the middle of the street. The reporter and camera were fine, but the incident was not isolated. Again and again, small groups of antifa members harassed, threatened and occasionally jostled reporters. The activists demanded not to be photographed as they marched down public streets — even as many of them hoisted their own cellphone cameras and staged their own photo ops. “At least they’re all going to get likes, right?” someone said as a group of masked antifa members posed for photographers during one of the afternoon’s more serene moments. “It’s not about likes,” a woman standing with the antifascists replied. “It’s about control over the narrative.” A few hours later, as the white supremacists went home and rain began to fall, several antifa members resorted to threats and violence to keep control of their narrative. “F—ing camera fairy, f— off!” an antifascist screamed at a Post videographer as he followed the group through the city. “He’s got a camera!” a woman yelled from the crowd, pointing. “Get that camera!” Blocks away, a photographer in a rain poncho was recorded being chased through an alley, while a woman berated other journalists. “You’re betraying us!” she yelled. “Are you going to report how many people they tear-gassed?” In video published by the right-wing website Breitbart, journalists with USA Today and Agence France-Presse tried to explain their jobs to the woman while a man in a bandanna screamed expletives at them. At the same event, NPR reporter Tim Mak watched antifa protesters lob fireworks and bottles at the police separating them from the white supremacists. Then he ducked as someone whipped an egg at his head. Antifa’s violence was dwarfed by thousands of other people who peacefully protested the white supremacists, Mak noted. “I was not marked as press,” he wrote, “and have no reason to believe it was thrown at me because I am a reporter.” But many other videos show antifa members accosting reporters specifically because they’re reporters, in scenes reminiscent of Donald Trump campaign rallies where the media were often treated as enemy. And not just in Washington D.C.; antifa’s hostility extended to Charlottesville, which spent the weekend marking the first anniversary since a woman was killed while protesting a massive gathering of white nationalists. Few if any white nationalists were on display in the city this weekend, but antifascists came nonetheless. On Saturday evening, after university students who organized the day’s rally against white supremacy had left, NBC reporter Cal Perry posted video of a man with a kerchief around his neck, screaming, “Snitch ass news b—–!” and slapping his TV crew’s phone away. The next day, a reporter for the local ABC Station WTVD shared video of antifa members shoving objects into his cameraman’s lens — then cutting his microphone cord. more at the link https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ite-the-right-and-harassed-the-press-instead/
When did the Washington post support Antifa? I don't think anyone has supported Antifa especially after they began to engage in the use of violence.
There are so many people on twitter justifying Antifa without directing showing support. I guess you would say those are the10%?
How many people? If 1/3 of this country is Dems that makes at least 70 million. So are you saying there are millions of people justifying Antifa online? Is that what you are seeing on twitter?
You do understand that there are Jewish citizens who believe their country is making horrible policy decisions that could be considered evil? Much like how many Americans see the horrible policy decisions of the dotard as evil? You need to step back from the ledge and stop viewing the world through fox-colored glasses.
I didn't see millions of people defending anifa on twitter but if we try to use your numbers, 90 percent are against Antifa that means 7 million support it.
And far more support white nationalism. You have people on this board parroting white nationalist viewpoints. How many people here support Antifa?
Jews in Israel: 6.5 million Jews in U.S.: 5.7 million https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_population_by_country Israel does not have a monopoly on Jewish thought or sentiment.
While I would like to see the facts that support that statement, but it doesn’t really matter, evil is evil regardless of the number of supporters. The left and mainstream media have legitimized ANTIFA. Both groups (white nationalists and ANTIFA) are evil and both should be called out for it regardless of how many support it. You read for things within posts that you think are secret code among white nationalists and then make accusations. Never mind that your accusations are made from assumptions not fact or any actual real evidence that the posters are white nationalists. There are a group of us that think all hate groups are evil and we believe that without the need to qualifying our thoughts for fear that we will upset someone’s social justice agenda. It would be nice if we could all call out the hate groups without legitimizing them by defending their actions. Do you have the courage to call ANTIFA evil without the need of “whataboutism” or claims of “false equivalency”?
I don't refer to white nationalists as evil so why should I call ANTIFA? And to put white nationalists who see other races as inferior and desiring the elimination or removal of those races at the same level as ANTIFA is perplexing and somewhat insulting. No one in the mainstream media nor the left media condones what Antifa does. They condemn their tactics as do it. Violence is not a solution to the problems we face in this country. What has legitimized Antifa is the right and Trump. When you advocate for white nationalism and that movement gains in power because of it, then it will cause a reaction which is what Antifa is. You folks act like Antifa is supported by liberals. It is no. Antifa is no friend of democrats because they seek to tear down a lot of what liberals support as well.
