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Don Lemon of CNN: White Men Represent the Biggest Terror Threat in America

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by pgabriel, Nov 1, 2018.

  1. edwardc

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    I disgruntled crazy man
     
  2. CometsWin

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    FBI has seen significant rise in white supremacist domestic terrorism in recent months
    https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/23/politics/fbi-white-supremacist-domestic-terror/index.html

    The FBI has seen a significant rise in the number of white supremacist domestic terrorism cases in recent months, a senior FBI counterterrorism official said Thursday.

    The official said the FBI has been grappling with the rise of domestic threats while international terror threats have remained constant with the fall of the ISIS caliphate in Syria.

    The domestic terror cases generally include suspects involved in violence related to anti-government views, racial or religious bias, environmental extremism and abortion-related views.

    The FBI wouldn't provide specific numbers to quantify the increase of in the number of white supremacist domestic terrorism cases. Unlike international terrorism investigations, domestic terrorism cases pose thornier issues for the FBI because of First Amendment protections. The US doesn't have a domestic terrorism law and no government agency designates domestic groups as being terrorist organizations. That means many cases the FBI calls domestic terror-related end up with a variety of charges for violations of laws related to guns or even other state charges.
    In 2017, there were about 150 arrests on charges the FBI classifies as domestic terror, and about 120 in 2018. The official said the FBI is on course to match or exceed those numbers this fiscal year.

    Overall, the FBI has about 5,000 terrorism-related investigations open, including 850 related to domestic terrorism, according to the official. About 1,000 are related to ISIS or other affiliated groups, and another 1,000 are for homegrown violent extremism.

    Reflecting law enforcement concern over the issue, earlier today at a hearing Acting DHS Secretary Kevin McAleenan called "white supremacist extremist violence" a "huge issue" and called it an "an evolving and increasingly concerning threat."
     
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  3. Nook

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    I suppose if there is any group I fear the most, it is white men. I am a white man for the purposes of the USA. The reality is that white men control a tremendous amount of positions of power in the USA. Further, I associate with white men most often in business. So they have the greatest opportunity to screw me over. I find the whole discussion bizarre and arbitrary.

    It is so relative.... perhaps we should simply say men are the greatest threat. Men control almost everything, are far more violent than women.
     
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    Give Marianne Williamson the nuclear codes and get back to me
     
  5. Cohete Rojo

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    1/5 domestic terrorism cases are Muslim cases.

    Not even 1/5 of the popular and yet they cause significant headaches.
     
  6. fchowd0311

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    Well it stems from a single attack by 11 people murdering 3000 people.

    If you number them by incidents, right wing terrorism takes the lead by a wide margin in terms frequency in the US.

    In either case, deaths by left wing terror in the US is essentially statisically irrelevant as in it hardly ever happens.
     
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    Islamists are largely right wing. They just use the left to achieve their aims.
     
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    How so?

    Does it have to do with electing a secret islamist extremist as President with Obama and then surrounding himself with other extremist jihadists in Valarie Jarret and Huma Abedin?
     
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  9. crash5179

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    LOL, and the Republicans denounce them and the Democrats flock to them. It’s the Democrats that give the jihadists, terrorists and people like Luis Farrakhan power.

    WOW, trying to minimize 911 seems to be popular with you left wing radicals these days.
     
  10. fchowd0311

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    If you are going to paint my statement as an attempt to "minimize" 9/11, you are definitely a troll.or a piece of **** human. Definitely could be both.
     
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    Do you believe Ihan Omar is Islamophobic for advocating for Muslims to boycott hajj in Meca because she believes that the Saudi Royal family is evil? Is she Islamophobic for calling out the Saudi lobbying power in the US far than the Israeli lobbying power?
     
  12. NewRoxFan

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    LOL... here's conservative dinesh d'souza, getting dismembered again by historian Kevin Kruse. (read tweet thread):

     
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    I saw the thread bumped.

    Was there another school shooting?
     
  14. crash5179

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    You definitely minimized 911. You can’t make a statement like that and not expect to get called out on it. That is the corner you paint yourself in when you try to justify hate. Just say it’s wrong.

    Try it.
    White supremacists are evil
    Nazi’s are evil
    Islamic Terrorist Groups are evil
    ANTIFA is evil
    BAMN is evil

    Just call them out for what they are without the need for qualifying statements trying to prove false equivalency. They are evil period. No qualifiers.
     
  15. dachuda86

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    Islamism as in "An advocate or supporter of a political movement that favors reordering government and society in accordance with laws prescribed by Islam."

    via wiki for quick referrence...

    Those people you mentioned obviously are not included in that. I still think Islamists are right wing but as long as the left is useful why rock the boat. Just wait. They are already clashing the UK about teaching LGBTQ ideology in grade school.
     
  16. fchowd0311

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    Okay... So what American Democrat politician advocates for that?
     
  17. fchowd0311

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    Why do I have to buy into your premise that Antifa has committed similar amount of atrocities as Nazis to be considered "evil" like the Nazis?

    Are you minimizing the Holocaust?

    Try it.
    Nazis have done far more damage to human society than ANTIFA.

    The death count of Antifa can't even fill up my 2 bedroom apartment while the death count of Nazis can form a US major city.

    Stop minimizing the Holocaust.
     
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    This is because gang activity is not included. If it were, and it should be, we wouldn’t be having this discussion.
     
  19. crash5179

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    Nazi’s have done far more evil. That is a fact.
    KKK has done far more evil. That is a fact.
    No minimizing here and it doesn’t change the fact that ANTIFA is a heat group and evil as well.

    Somehow you seem to think that gives ANTIFA some type of moral high ground. Here are the facts. None of those groups gets the moral high ground. All hate groups are evil.

    You do nothing but try to legitimize a hate group with statements like the ones you are currently making. Trying to legitimize ANTIFA is a stain on your character. Not once have you denounced them. You continue with your cries of false equivalency. Lol.
     
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    Calling out the right wing premise that Antifa is some evil boogyman that is a systemic threat to US sovereignty is not legitimatizing them.

    And your premise regarding "GOP politicians call out evil on the right unlike Democrats": in the past few years, there have been mass murderers or attempted mass murderers who have either written extensive clear intentions along with their ideology along with praising GOP politicians such as Trump or have an extensive interest history of posting or sharing content that is straight ticket GOP meme rhetoric you would find on Facebook.

    You don't see GOP politicians condemn right wing white supremacist protestors. In fact they always deflect with "wHaT aBouT AnTIfa!?!"

    So another premise with a false equivalency. Let Democrat politicians at leaat have the chance to have someone on the left commit mass murder and have a giant manifesto of left wing memes so they have a chance to condemn something equivalent to when a GOP politician condemning a right wing mass murderer.
     

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