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Ocasio-Cortez tweets and other news

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Os Trigonum, Aug 26, 2018.

  1. fchowd0311

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    You stating this doesn't make it true.

    1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism - "Make America Great Again!" Many voters and supporters interpret the message as a ethno-white America

    2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights - Donald's open sanctioning of torture

    3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause - Muslims or Mexicans take your pick.

    4. Supremacy of the Military - Begs for military parades. Proudly tweets about the largest expansion of the military

    5. Rampant Sexism - Donald's sexism is a matter of public record

    6. Controlled Mass Media - Donald is advocating being able to sue any media outlet that writes something bad about him.

    7. Obsession with National Security - Donald has played the terrorism card over and over again.

    8. Religion and Government are Intertwined - Donald frequently questions the faith of his opponents and has even had a fight with the Pope over faith.

    9. Corporate Power is Protected - One look at Donald's economic plans will show you that.

    10. Labor Power is Suppressed - Donald favors taking down the unions.

    11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts - In fairness Donald shows a lot of disdain these are just among them

    12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment - A major part of his campaign

    13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption - shear unadulterated nepotism

      The only thing holding Trump back is that our systems of checks and balances are in a much better shape than post WWI Germany which makes me sleep relatively easy at night. No where near the levels of poverty and economic anxiety that post WWI Germany experienced that led to fascism.
     
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  2. fchowd0311

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    You didn't provide any content. You just used a meme to dismiss what she said.
     
  3. fchowd0311

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    Do you know what a non-binding resolution is? These are ultimate goals, not enforceable ones and AOC never plans them to be enforceable hence 'non-binding'. I've never seen a group of people throw a hissy fit over a non-binding resolution.
     
  4. dachuda86

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    You are drinking too much cool aid. You copy and pasted some propaganda about Trump being a nazi I guess from what...southern poverty law center or something you pulled off TYT? How is that nuanced? It is just misleading spin.

    Also I didn't use a meme originally... I posted a nickname and you got bent out of shape because you are a Cow Farts fan I take it.
     
  5. Os Trigonum

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    excellent analysis from another NOT-FAR-RIGHT source. @JuanValdez , I agree with pretty much everything here.

    Excerpt:

    A similar situation happened with the swastika. That symbol had been used for centuries by various cultures throughout Europe, Asia, India, and the Middle East. Ocasio-Cortez’s “experts” say that people besides the Nazis operated concentration camps, and that is factually accurate, as it is to say that other cultures have used swastika symbols. But it is irrevocably a Nazi symbol now. Hang a swastika flag in front of your house and try to convince your neighbors that you’ve simply converted to an ancient religion.

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    Ocasio-Cortez has the benefit of a large audience, passionate supporters, and a steady media spotlight. Even as a freshman member of Congress, she could be that child speaking truth to power, convincing the crowd to admit the painful reality of the very serious problems in our immigration system.

    Instead, she has chosen to be a sideshow, spending her energy demanding the abolishment of ICE — a impractical idea that is highly unlikely, even under a potential future Democratic presidency — and aggressively attempting to force a term heavily laden with Nazi connotations onto a situation that does not warrant it.​

    https://arcdigital.media/no-the-u-s-is-not-running-concentration-camps-at-the-border-3d0c6eeb0caf
     
  6. fchowd0311

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    I noticed everything you post in the D&D has nothing to do with actual actions or policy but rather internet drama and where the source is from. ****ing dismantle it if its so easy to dismantle.

    Dude, Trump's campaign rallies are straight from a fascist playbook. Yelling and screaming about enemies of the people, listing off violent crimes committed by minorities, creating entirely fabricated stories of "thousands upon thousands" of Muslims celebrating 9/11 on the streets of Jersey City. Pardoning a sheriff BEFORE HE WAS EVEN SENTENCED when the sheriff violated court orders to cease and desist violating 4th amendment on citizens. Hiring his children in high level government positions. All ploys from former fascists.
     
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    Do people genuinely think that ICE is some essential entity that has existed for decades? People do know that ICE was created right after 9/11 when create pieces of legislation was passed such as the Patriot Act. Claiming that ICE doesn't need to exist isn't extremist when the United States has been prospering multiple centuries without it and the formation of the entity occurred during an era of knee jerk reactions that eroded civil liberties.
     
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    You're hysterical. Not the funny way but the crazy way. I am now going to actually post actual Cow Fart memes in response to you as I fart in your general direction.

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    There is literally a video of a survivor talking about it. That's his outrage. Who are you exactly to tell a survivor living in the United States in 2019 how to feel about AOC comments invoking "concentration camps"? - that ain't me. I am outraged because it's a horrible thing to say/do.

    Again, the term "concentration camp" in the 2019 American lexicon is irrevocably associated with the Holocaust. Everyone understands that and to use the term is to invoke the Holocaust.

    Which "concentration camps" was she referring to then? The ones were thousands of Boers died? the ones where thousands of Cubans died? Armenians? Oh, right, she was talking about the "mild" concentration camps. Yea, everyone should draw that conclusion. :rolleyes:



    *Yes, I will continue to ignore your attempts to guide the discussion into a different topic*
     
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    Are you speaking of the NY politician who advocated for the surveillance of American Muslims and desired to erode their civil liberties? What of the holocaust survivors who were not offended and are not vitriolic right wingers who want to erode the civil liberties of Americans because they are Muslim?
     
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    I'm not familiar with that survivors political activities or associations. I only saw his name was "David."

    Survivors aren't a monolith.. they are people with varying opinions but this one clearly found it offensive, along with many other people and I agree with that position.

    People need to tread lightly around invoking the Holocaust/Holocaust imagery but unfortunately, they all too frequently do not.
     
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    Ya, the survivors who found it offensive were conveniently right wing activists who advocate for eroding the civil liberties of certain American citizens for their religious affiliation. Has it occurred to you that maybe given their prior history of being right wing activists that they will find ways to concern troll a famous liberal politician? Do you think that is a remote possibility?

    Are there any Holocaust survivors that aren't supporters of Bibi, who aren't right wing activists expressing distaste of AOC's comments? Hey, maybe the criticism stems from political ideological lines rather than sincere distaste.
     
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    This is simply not true. Legal immigrants are just as much a target of attacks in this country and people are worried about more brown people coming in.

    Trump has taken steps to limit LEGAL immigration from countries of color - or shithole countries as he likes to call them. Additionally, given that even illegal immigrants commit crime at a lower rate than Americans and contribute to our economy in a time we have a labor shortage, there isn't a case for being to anti-immigrant - legal or not. By perpetuating the myth that migrants are criminals or somehow stealing jobs - it's demonstrates the real opposition is around race and culture.
     
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    Not everyone is racist, fool. And your arguments have been disproven many times over. Here, have a cow fart.

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    They are concentration camps. It's wrong for any Jewish group to only say that Jews have been held in concentration camps. Dozens of other people have experienced this before and after the Holocaust.
     

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