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2019 NBA Finals: Golden State Warriors vs. Toronto Raptors

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by J.R., May 25, 2019.

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Golden State Warriors vs. Toronto Raptors

Poll closed May 30, 2019.
  1. Warriors in 4

    8.9%
  2. Warriors in 5

    28.3%
  3. Warriors in 6

    25.6%
  4. Warriors in 7

    3.3%
  5. Raptors in 7

    24.4%
  6. Raptors in 6

    8.3%
  7. Raptors in 5

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  8. Raptors in 4

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  1. PlayBall

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    Right now they are. But maybe not for long.
     
  2. Mr. Clutch

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    Ok but in general harden fans always change the narrative to where harden is the best player in the league.

    If rockets lose, it's because the supporting cast sucks even though the team actually still plays well when harden sits. Rockets last year were known as one of the best non championship teams.

    Then if Curry dominates, well it's just because he has a lot of help. Everyone on golden state is mediocre, but somehow they just have magic formula where they are really good combined. just don't dare give any one player on warriors credit because that's a threat to the narrative on harden
     
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  3. PlayBall

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    LOL look out for the Harden fans with flamethrowers.
     
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    If the Raptors can get a split in Oakland, they are right back in this series. If they can get a split in Oakland.
     
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    Especially 4 seven game series. GS is better than the Rockets. It’s not even up for debate.
     
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    GS are not better. They did adjustment.

    EG, nba finals
    Game 1 they started with Jordan, biggest name in nba history. Exactly like rockets, ball goes from outside to inside.
    Adjusted game 2, ball goes from inside to boogie, draw double team, then kick ball to outside and hit 3s.
    Completely different, what did mda adjust?
     
  7. PlayBall

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    So you're saying if the series is tied 2-2, the Raptors are still in it?? Bold take indeed,
     
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    Seriously? How many times does GS have to end Houston's season for you to admit that they're better?
     
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    Sure. Why not? If they can gain a split in Oakland, a big if!
     
  10. PlayBall

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    Oh I'm not arguing with you, I'm laughing at how obvious that point is.

    Yes, if the series is tied, the Raptors will clearly still be in it.
     
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    Some people need to read the obvious!
     
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    I think raptors in 5 is possible.
    Ric bucher said GS should not let injury boogie, Durant and Klay play in nba finals. That is a good idea.
    Looney is out.
     
  13. Easy

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    I can't believe they said that the Warriors weren't deep. "Their starting five are great but their bench aren't that talented, blah blah blah."

    Any team who can sub in Looney and Bogut when your starting center is injured or not playing well is deep.
    Any team who still has three all stars when one of your all stars is injured is deep.
    Any team who has Iggy and Livingston off the bench is deep.
    And they still have Cook (who shoots 40% from deep), Jerebko, and McKinnie to throw at you.
     
  14. Mr. Clutch

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    Bogut, cook, jerebko and mckinnie are not good
     
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    Bogut and Livingston are pretty much washed up - especially Bogut. Turns out being MVP of the Australian League doesn't actually mean much in the NBA. Iggy's still a major contributor, no question, and Looney's turning into a beast. Cook is a one trick pony - he offers nothing outside a jumper. It's not like their bench is worthless, but the stars aren't getting a lot of support.

    This Warriors team actually reminds me of the last LeBron Miami team, when the stars had to carry pretty much the whole load because the bench fell off big time and SA took care of them in the finals handily. That comparison looked especially apt in Game 1 as the younger, fresher Raptors ran rings around the limited Warriors. Next five games are going to be interesting.
     
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    Bogut can't play a lot but he is smart and can still do some damage when on the court.

    Cook, Jerebko, and McKinnie can all shoot. Our best 3pt shooter off the bench is Danual House, nuff said.
     
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    Those guys look good because their system made them. They each have weakness in their games, most of them are major ones, but their system hide those weaknesses, and takes advanatge of what they are good at.

    Both Looney and Bogut were no takers until the Warriors took them back.
    The same goes with Cook, McKinnie, and to a less extend, Jerebko.
    Livingston has declined a lot for the past year, this is after Kerr rested him most of the time during the season, he will retire after the season as he has trouble to suite up for the game without significant pain nowadays (his own word).
    Iggy has been on the minutes restriction for the regular season, and he is a terrible shooter (see his %).
    Green is good at everything, except shooting the ball with a decent %.
    Klay is a good defender, great shooter, and great at moving without ball, but terrible at making decisions with the ball.
    Curry is an average defender, high TO ball handler, but a great offensive player.

    It's similar to the old Bulls era, when their system made many role peoples like the stars.
     
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    It's not just the system. If it's just the system, then why aren't other teams using the same system? The "system" a team uses is usually catered to their franchise player. D'Antoni's system with Nash's Suns team was very different from his system with Harden's team.

    The players have to fit well. Every role player has glaring deficiency. Otherwise they would be stars. You need to have role players that fit well with your stars. And the stars need to fit well to each other. Curry is a versatile offensive player. He can create and he can play off the ball. He can shoot from anywhere and he can penetrate and finish in the lane. With Curry and Green, Klay doesn't need to create. That hides his weakness and maximizes his strength.
     
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    Bulls were good because of Jordan, not the triangle.
     

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