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Tracy McGrady: CP3 wanted more movement out of James Harden. Harden didn't budge.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Rasheed, May 31, 2019.

  1. riko

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    Paul had the ball in game 5 and he stank it up. This narrative that Harden is stopping Paul is farsical.Paul can still occasionally be great but given his age and body he can’t be that guy anymore. Dosent really matter how much he has the ball anymore. Btw tmac was also a ball dominant player so Paul wouldn’t have the ball as much with him either
     
  2. Asian Sensation

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    Replace McGrady with Harden on that 2008 Playoff team and he’d be lucky to win a game.
     
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    Harden's stubborn refusal to play off-ball might be what costs him the championship. There has to be more tricks to the offense than just difficult ISO ball.
     
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    Yall really dont understand basketball. In playoffs 1.5m of shooting space turns to 0.5 and part is because of predictability. If only thing Harden does is requiring teammates to stand around to bail him out if his move dont work they are gonna miss. It was like this last year, we changed personel and its the same this year
     
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    Lol oh this is a new one, counting on his teammates to “bail him out”!
     
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  6. bmelo

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    Yeah. They are only for spacing and to have someone to pass to when clock is running out so James wont ****up his fg% for people like you to say he played good. Its not a team its Harden + his henchmen
     
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    many were open looks in that 0-27 stretch
     
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  8. HP3

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    Henchman? Harden getting dudes open looks is now being regarded as a henchman? And how many times does he pass it to someone else at the end of a the shot clock instead of the reverse?
    And who else do you want with the ball in their hands? PJ? Gerald? Faried? Clint? Shumpert? House? Outside of Paul, Gordon and Rivers no else’s can even do anything with the ball in their hands.

    I almost wish we had a different system just so you dudes can see what the alternative is like.
     
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    and you glossed over the fact that we were arguably getting beat by the refs
     
  10. TEXNIFICENT

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    Really? Because TMac won soooo many times in the past. TMac should really shut the hell up about anyone's playoff success. Besides, dude was ALWAYS HURT!
     
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    OR Golden St is just the best team in the West, evidenced by their 15 straight playoff series win streak over the last 5 years.
     
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    By the way, Tracy just straight up lying on the Jump with JVG there saying Jeff would have never allowed T-mac to just hang around. Funny because I recall him passing the ball and just stand there to get it back too. Oh the irony...

    He doesn't have any inside info so it's all what he thinks, though it's probably not too far off. CP3 wanting more movement is fair, but there's no beef or love lost there. CP3 didn't deliver until game 6 and Harden just didn't do enough to win.

    We need bigs, size, athleticism, speed. Morey needs to stap valuing undersized players and go for the tallest ****er in the league. Hell, McGee looked darn good in LA and with GS at times. He definitely gave us fits with all those blocks. And yes, Harden needs to move more and CP3 needs to work on his off ball play too.
     
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    This isn’t going out on a limb
     
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    Harden went ghost in the ending of game 5 and 6 that can’t be ignored however when curry took over I don’t know how anyone can think harden is better than curry
     
  15. chenjy9

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    Because he is. Let's just totally ignore all the shitty games Curry had that series then, because it doesn't fit your agenda.
     
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    But he was magically game 6?? Harden was godamn blind and still played a better game than CP3. I just can’t stand a dude acting like he’s all about winning when he hamstrung (yes pun intended!) the team with that contract.
    Curry pissed on CP3, he couldn’t figure a slip
    PnR 10x in a row! Lmao! So much for his “leadership”
     
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    So it’s ok for CP3 not doing enough but not for Harden oooookay.......no bias at all obviously.
     
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    I already spent 3 pages explaining my position. There is difference between being unwilling and unable.
     
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    3 X Champion maybe 4 X this year
    2 X MVP
    Not a ball stopper
    Better handles
    Not a turnover machine
    WAY more efficient
    Much better ‘Movement’
    Proven winner (especially when it matters most)

    CP3 simply stated he wanted more movement out of Harden and all you sensitive Harden fanbois/white knights flip script and start comparing him to other players, hating on CP3/ Tmac or anyone else that agrees that we need better movement from Harden.

    Anything and everything to avoid the truth that Harden needs to be better off the ball. Just like your guys idol. Stubborn AF.
     
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    The results are the same, and being unwilling isn’t even a fact, it’s all speculation. Again CP3 is unable until game 6 somehow?. I guess Capela was unwilling to box out since we’re speculating.
     
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