Tracy McGrady: CP3 wanted more movement out of James Harden. Harden didn't budge.

If 110 isn’t good.

What is 108.8 AFTER a HUGE bump from game 1?

And how is it in the finals?

Sounds like a very good team defense.

 

Well if your last line is your line of thinking then there really is no convincing you of anything...

“So what he’s pretty efficient at it....”

You realize that’s the point.

 

But it's not working. The number look good though....Wonder what James Harden is doing now? I know what he's not doing though. That's playing in these finals.

 

Quote me a number all you want. They are beautiful for reference, and we need the info for adjustments and improvements.

They can be taken too literal though. We can put X amount of 3's all day, but if we are not hitting them, or if they are not good open high% 3s it's pointless and a waste of possession. You only get so many in a game.

 

One of my favorite Clutchfans posts in all of Clutchfans

 

Man I ****ing hate this clown. Biggest idiot currently on TV. Still cant understand how he made into the hall of fame.

 

Lol no ball movement is what makes Harden look like superman on the court most of the times. He ain't changing a damn thing.

 

WTF does TMac know about winning?

 

So your point is the warriors play good defense? So what?

 

I'm so sick of this pissing contest of egos which utimately define our seasons, hard enough to just beat the Warriors without all the BS. The only thing that worries me here is the common denominator after all this time... How far does talent alone really get you?

 

I agree that Harden’s not immune from criticism. He could have played smarter down the stretch in games 5 and 6 against GS. He could have played with more urgency. Sure, that’s noted.

But if people are looking for reasons the team lost, look no further than Chris Paul and Capela. Harden produced what he needed to. Sure, he could have played better in some games. But he obliterated Utah in the first two that led to an easy series win. He was great against Golden State and battled through injuries to produce in that series. He gave it his all and he does so year after year.

I am disappointed in the result this year but I will definitely not blame Harden for the result. He was our mvp again this season and carried the team as far as he could. Unfortunately, his co star in Paul is not at that level anymore and Capela just didn’t show up.

 

My point is you keep harping on our offensive efficiency in the playoffs like it is the main problem. Ignoring the last 2 years of our 5 series 2x against Utah, 2x against GS who are both high end defenses.

Toronto’s offense has been worse and yet they are where they are. Very solid defense has carried them in these playoffs.

 

And it all stems on MDAs inability or refusal to adjust. He's all about banging your head against the wall until you see daylight, very I'll advised, very vain tbh...

 

Isn't McGrady a baseball player...? Why is he commenting about basketball...?

 

Nobody is blaming just Harden. He has been good. I'm not going to say he needs to be better, but I do know he has the capability to be better. Same with Paul.

The WHOLE team can hold that big fat L.

 

This isn't news Tmac. I think the majority of us here are aware of Hardens antics

 

We don’t play like a team, everything is on Harden’s shoulder so he dictates how he and the team plays. It’s partly on him and partly on the coach, GM, owner. Rockets need to change their style and if Harden really refuses this, which I honestly think is possible, then I’m not a fan until he’s off the team.

 

I thought the rockets had a historic offense led by James harden. Why does it matter than the raptors offense can be stopped? Who cares?

 

Hating on McGrady for the way he ended things here is one thing but to bash him for not getting out of the first round is a bit unfair IMO (I did it plenty too before). However, revisiting history and looking back his supporting cast was even worse than I previously thought. Especially his 2008 team against the Jazz when we lost Yao.

Starting lineup was:

Rafer or Bobby Jackson (Sucks/Washed up)
McGrady
Battier (No stats all star, glue guy)
Scola (1st year in NBA)
Deke (month shy of being 42 years old)

If anybody had to play ISO ball because he HAD to not cause he wanted to in order try to carry a team it was McGrady. Maybe instead of blindly hating him cause you don’t like him perhaps you guys should try to understand his perspective since he’s actually been there and knows what worked and didn’t. The Jazz were talented, deep and most importantly everybody had a role and they actually played like a team.

You guy can disagree with the above but I know for a fact if McGrady had the same supporting cast as Harden in this years playoffs he would’ve gotten us equally as far. Bare minimum.

CP3 (resumes full Point God duties)
EGO (returns to natural 2 spot)
McGrady (28 years old)
PJ Tucker (role gets easier)
Capela

His supporting ‘talent’ wasn’t any better in any of the other years after Yao there’re was a severe drop off.

Also, that 08 Jazz team was much deeper and talented than this years Jazz team.

Final thought. I know McGrady is still a “Houston guy” and so a part of me wonders if he’s a bit more invested towards Harden/CP3 potentially not working out and splitting cause he actually cares and has some resentment towards quitting/splitting when real help (Artest) finally arrived. You can trade CP3 but we’re not gonna get a better PG in return. It’d be much easier if we could just get “more movement from Harden.”

 

He did not make it because he is an idiot obv.

Rare talent and few accomplishments.