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Tracy McGrady: CP3 wanted more movement out of James Harden. Harden didn't budge.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Rasheed, May 31, 2019.

  1. Reeko

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    ha, I’m whining, but you’re stating facts...please...miss me with all that
     
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  2. amaru

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    I completely forgot about Nene. To be honest, he was more effective than Capela.....and that's just a damn shame. But I suppose that's Harden's fault as well. He should have stepped up and played Clint's role as well. Isn't that right CF?
     
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  3. DreamShook

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    There were games when Harden had crazy stat lines and the game is lost on a simple TO, or a missed FT. - Regular season OKC game that dumped the Rockets to 4th. Stats are fun to look at, but come on, man.

    Harden makes all his fts and the Rockets win game 6. (or go into OT).
     
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  4. DreamShook

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    Apparently.
     
  5. YOLO

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    im glad you decided to post those.

    cp3 gave houston 17 ppg, 7 rpg, 5.7 asg and 1.7 stls yet you described him as putrid. Oh boy if he was considered "putrid", what are alot of the these other pg's that played in the playoffs labeled as. One of them is actually playing right now in the finals.
     
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  6. steddinotayto

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    Instead of asking Harden to move more how about Paul ask Clint to play better?
     
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  7. Reeko

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    if only Nene was 30 instead of about to retire :(

    Clint was getting 29 mpg in that series and was basically so bad that he should’ve been unplayable

    CP0 was trash

    Green wasn’t good

    House did nothing

    Faried got no PT

    all this “great depth” that we supposedly had reduced to nothing
     
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  8. YOLO

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    lets not forget the offensive foul with 2 mins go in a 2 pt game. gs then scores to go up 4. cp3 then makes a layup to get back within 2. curry comes back and makes a 3. then the infamous lazy out of bounds pass he threw to no one, with 1.5 min to go. apparently that's all on cp3.

    pile on everyone else to make yourself feel better. that means nothing. point is someone needs to be better at the end of games. upgrading talent around him doesn't fix that. it's an issue that should be addressed whether the harden apologists want to accept it or not.
     
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  9. amaru

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    If Chris Paul doesn't go 4-7 from the free throw line and turn the ball over 5 times the Rockets win game 1

    If Chris Paul doesn't go 3-14 in game 5 the Rockets win game 5.

    We can "what if" all day. Harden made mistakes but he also had plenty of bright spots that kept us in the series. Had Harden pulled a "Chris Paul" we would have gotten swept. Had Paul pulled a " I'm going to play like an average version of myself" then we may have just won the series.
     
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  10. amaru

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    You're right, putrid was a strong word. But let's be honest, we needed more from Chris Paul than that. Those are pretty pedestrian numbers by a teams highest paid player (and arguably second best) in the teams biggest series of the year.
     
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  11. YOLO

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    nobody is saying he couldn't have been better. we've already acknowledged that
     
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    If Harden had moved the ball more, that deadly step back 3 wouldn't have been as newsworthy... Media needs to make up their damn minds!
     
  13. amaru

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    I actually remember that sequence. Yep, Harden made two bone head plays that ended our slim chance at a comeback. But it shouldn't have gotten to that point. Around the 4-5 minute mark when Paul was (finally) rolling, D'Antoni made an inexplicable substitution of Paul for Capela (of all people). Paul gave no indication that he was fatigued, he finally looked confident and the crowd was in it. Immediately after that substitution, the Warriors started trapping Harden at mid court which led to PJ attempting to play make. That ended predictably bad and keyed off a Golden State run that we never recovered from. Mike outcoached himself and cost us game 6 in the 4th quarter.
     
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    Ball dominant guard, who has the ball, wants the other ball dominant guard to move around more unfortunately that doesn't happen because he's a ball dominant guard.
     
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    And I'm not saying that Harden was perfect.

    I'm saying James played well enough and our other 2 top players were virtual no shows. So what's the beef?
     
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    You must see a can't miss prospect in next year's draft huh..lol
     
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    Harden could have done better. CP3 was mostly crap. Unfortunately, CP3 takes up a large chunk of our cap so we can't get Harden a superstar to team up with.

    Once we re-signed CP3 we were locked in to the Harden-CP3 duo, which I suspected wouldn't be enough to ever win.

    Glad for Chris Paul the person that he got a huge deal. Hate that we're the team that has to be sacrificed so the player's association president can save face.
     
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    that could of had an impact but lets not act like the game wasn't going to be 50/50 as if the rockets were just going to run away with the game. it was still any one games at that point
     
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    the beef seems to be yall are some for reason insulted by the fact that some of us wanted harden to be the guy he's capable of and were disappointed. it was as simple as that And again I have no clue why ya'll got all dramatic about this as if it was the worst insult in the world to him
     
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  20. amaru

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    When I saw Paul going to the bench for Capela I figured we were probably going to lose. We were up 5-7 at that point and Paul was actually showing flashes of old. Having a "flashback night" of sorts. Why the coach would pull his hot player, who had been struggling offensively up until that point, for another struggling player is just mystifying. You're right it was still anybody's game, but we were in the driver's seat. Pulling Paul for Capela was a bonehead decision that directly led to a Warrior run.
     
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