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Report: Chris Paul, James Harden argued about Rockets’ offensive style

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by IA Rocket, May 23, 2019.

  1. Mr. Clutch

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    They were 7-4 before his injury in the PO this year.

    They haven't lost since his injury.
     
  2. RyanB

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    You summed it up perfectly.
    Hope Tilman will not make dumb decisions
     
  3. J Sizzle

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    The problem with going strictly off box score stats is that doesn’t chart the *impact* of what Curry’s 2nd half run was like. It was demoralizing. It killed the Toyota Center crowd. You could see it zap the Rockets energy.

    That goes beyond “oh well he has a better supporting cast so of course they win”. Curry took took advantage of his chances in Game 5 and 6. Harden did not.
     
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  4. HP3

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    Cool now go look at the series stats like Ive been telling you. Curry is not getting off for PLAYING POORLY with Durant, not happening. Especially since he performed WELL with Durant. Thats a terrible argument which Im not having any of.

    Yea, he played well in the 4th hats off to him. Harden didnt play as well in the 4th, it happens. One game out of 6.

    Watch this and youll understand. Dantoni isnt some unadaptable coach.
     
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  5. HP3

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    Okay, they played us for 1.25 games and FREAKING Portland. You think thats happening against Toronto cmon now.
     
  6. Mr. Clutch

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    They lost 2 games to the Clippers.


    By the way Vegas has them as huge favorites and Durant isn't coming back until game 3 if at all
     
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    Well put sir. Which is the difference between Harden vs the upper echelon superstars in the NBA. There is no stat for will to win. As soft as I think Curry is, he showed me those 2 games he wants to win more than Harden does, PERIOD. This is troubling to me. Harden will play a extra 10 mins in a blowout for that 60pt triple double, but won't compete his hardest in the last 7mins of the biggest playoff game of his career? With Kevin Durant injured.


    If that's not a indicator of who wants it & who doesn't, than whatever
     
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  8. HP3

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    Lol, Curry hit those shots, but you know what was more demoralizing, Andre Igudoala going 5/8 from three Looney Having Whatever amount of offensive rebounds.
     
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  9. HP3

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    Ok they clearly let off the gas and never took them seriously once. Look at how Kerr ran his Hampton five lineup as soon as we were there.

    Ok okay cool and 538 has the Raptors as favorites to win this series. Lets see how good they do without Durant against Toronto, I would love to see this.
     
  10. Mr. Clutch

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    Not 538, Vegas and the prediction markets
     
  11. Mr. Clutch

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    Why was Iggy so open?
     
  12. HP3

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    Yea Im telling you another place which has the Raptors winning. And I bet you Vegas had the Bucks winning too lol. Lets see how good they are against Toronto without Durant.
    Because we didnt even bother contesting him, he is a horrible career three point shooter. He hit some shots congratz on him, dont count on him doing that to anybody else, he got hot for our series.
     
  13. Mr. Clutch

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    I guess hakeem just got lucky horry and Cassell hit those 3s. Just completely random.
     
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    Wow, you really believe that?
     
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    LOL ok here we go. Im giving you stats on Andre being a horrible career three point shooter. Are Horry and Cassell supposed to be some horrible three point shooters? Is that your example?

    Yea cause thats where you win that game. Curry is a great player, its not out of the ordinary for him to do stuff like that. Andre going 5/8 from 3 is way out of the ordinary. Looney dominating us on the glass is out of the ordinary, that should not happen. Sure in the closing seconds it all seems like its more important but games are played for 4 quarters.
     
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    Honestly, sometimes it just seems like some of you dudes just hate Harden, so instead of like appreciating and backing your star player, you still try to ask for more even when it wasnt his fault.
     
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    Outside of firing Mike, which still needs to happen, the Rockets should consider moving James “back” to shooting guard. I’m not saying this because James can’t play PG rather our highest paid player (Paul) can’t play anything else.

    It was striking to see him be unable to separate from pretty much any player in the playoffs. I think that last hamstring injury accelerated his decline. We need to be running a P&R for him pretty much anytime he’s on the floor and allow him to make decisions. Harden should be the release valve if our play falls apart.

    Basically we need to change our offense. Yes I know this is a pipe dream with Mike at the helm as he’s gotten lazy with James bailing him out. We also need some serious player development.
     
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    Agree, Iggy can only beat lebron and harden, he can’t beat anybody else.
    Beat kawhi maybe, just maybe.
     
  19. J Sizzle

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    Who on here doesn’t appreciate Harden? Some warranted criticism doesn’t mean he’s not appreciated.

    I back Harden all the time. Go look at my posting history. I just know he has another level to reach and I want to see him reach it. I’m not going to foolishly say he has reached his apex. I know how good he is capable of being and his playoff history is most certainly not that level.
     
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    Simply untrue. You may have felt this way, but go rewatch the game and look at how the team and the building reacted to those guys making plays vs Curry’s 2nd half run. Just go back and watch.
     

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