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The Problem With Good Times

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by pgabriel, May 22, 2019.

  1. conquistador#11

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    Using my Morley app I was able to conclude that Mr. Evans made around $250 a week. (Illinois database from work wages in the 1970s.)
    Let's say Mrs. Evans decided to not be a stay at home mom, she would make about half that. so combined, their total income would be around $1,560 a month. You have to consider they have 3 kids, J.J was still a kid. It's completely plausible that a hard working family can remain in the projects.

    The median price for a single family home in Chicago was around $39,000 in 1974 with the debt Mr. Evans' family accumulated and the banks not giving him loans.
     
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    I was referring to King Cheetah
     
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    I realize what you were trying to do
     
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    Sweet Daddy Williams used to be my favorite character
     
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    I don’t particularly like King Cheetah. I’m not sure where you are coming from.
     
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    Then I come in peace
     
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  9. pgabriel

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    The reason i say 2 incomes is Good Times is a spinoff of Maude in which she was the maid

    Anyone whose been in the projects knows its mostly single parent homes.

    I understand the dynamic maybe different especially in high cost of living cities like NYC.

    Alll that being said i appreciate the effort you put into this post
     
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    Sweet Daddy scared of needles.
     
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    I watched the show all the time and I don't remember Florida ever having a job, aside from temporary jobs here and there. I didn't know this was a Maude spinoff though. And James didn't even graduate high school, if I remember right. Kind of hard to raise a family in the city when you don't even have a high school degree.

    I kind of lost interest after James died (DAMN, DAMN, DAAAAAMMMNNN!!!!). And then when Keith came into the picture, he was supposed to get the whole family out of the projects....and then he broke his leg. That was a little over the top.
     
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    It's as if you have no idea of history.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redlining
     
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    Im saying something very simple. Work be responsible and still be stuck in the projects is a bad message.
     
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    No, you're just projecting insecurities and regrets about your own productivity by mischaracterizing subsidized or income restricted housing to critique a single fictional program that was around before you were born. The biggest flaw is assuming that your perception is a proxy for the experiences or motivations of other blacks, inner city residents or individuals eligible for lower housing expenses in an area they've already gotten used to living in.
     
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    Until about 1965, Cabrini Green, the project in Good Times was actually viewed by residents as a favorable place to live.

    "The Projects" really became a bad word in public perception probably near the time that Good Times was concieved. They weren't viewed as a guaranteed s**t-hole home of last resort like they are now. It was an evolution from a very positive, modern clean place to live to something very negative.
     
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    Yeah and depending on what building they were living in it was just built in 1969, so it would have been 3 years old.
     
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    Cabrini was depicted pretty roughly even in Good Times. There must have been some truth

    Projects look just like the Evans place did. When there is no furnishings they can look like jails regardless of age

    There has been an effort across the country to make them more aesthetically pleasing
     
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    So what if it was around before i was born. Project housing is for low income people. Most two income households dont qualify.

    Im talking numbers and and defined qualifications. Not projections.
     

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