Sources: Butler still Moreys MAIN target this summer/MDAs seat getting hot

I dun see it with Butler, you got to take back an Alpha.....a Co-Captain.

A more guaranteed chance at a ship. James Harden ain't the best Playoffs main Pilot.

Like with Philly Butler is giving us a Game 7 but not the Win IMHO.

 

And so what? Was he the one to develop Kawhi- the reason they reached the ECF? Nope.
His bench, the rotation, the offensive system , the mental preparation of the team have been horrible. The integration of Gasol has been a failure for the most part. I don't see what good job Nurse has done.
The only difference between him and Casey is that one has a top 5 superstar and the other Demar Derozan.

 

He's not the missing piece, stop this nonsense.

 

We’re gonna need to find a way to get Davis and Butler

 

better chance of me accidentally finding the cure for cancer

 

Butler is our best shot at acquiring another star by far. If we can’t manage to get him, then we’ll be running it back with Harden, an even worse CP3, and the same ol’ inconsistent/limited role players which is guaranteed to not win u a title.

 

Just not ready to pin hopes on a new messiah again.

Last time we gave him a poisonous long term contract and he fizzled out.

I dun want us to be that desperate again ever with almost no young prospects and no draft picks.

 

Did you watch the 4th Q? Butler is the only reason they were in it. He is one of the more clutch players in the NBA and gets up for high pressure situations.

The only reason Philly lost is their coach is an absolute moron. Several times, their "need a basket" play was to hand it to a static Joel Embiid 25+ feet from the basket.

I think Butler is a tremendous fit. Two way player, good under pressure, has not looked out of place on a team with 3 other guys who like to handle/shoot.

 

He had half the season resting or being the subject of trade talks......of course like Kawhi he had time to save up his energy.

He is no Kawhi.

I am still not sold on him entirely, actually I am not sold on the management.

I never said 'do not get him', it's just a larger band aid this time. I also have to see what we give up for him first.

I understand that the Rockets are desperate again for talent.

More desperate than when they pinned their hope on a Fantasy Lebron Lite calling himself BeWell White.

 

I never said he's Kawhi. I don't think this team can only win with a Kawhi-calibre addition.

As for the resting, he's always been good in clutch situations and always played extensive minutes with taking lots of beating going to the basket. I don't think it's unique to this season. He has a hard nosed mentality like Harden even though he's less talented. What makes him a good fit to me is that is hard nosed nature is amplified rather than diminished in high pressure situations.

I'd give anything but Harden for him. Everyone else is replaceable, the only player who would be painful to lose is Tucker but sometimes you have to give up something good to get something good. I'm under no illusion about Gordon - he averaged 16 points on 14 shots this regular season with a Houston career low in assists, rebounds and FTA. He showed up big for the playoffs, but with Butler you get the playoff appearance and the regular season appearance and just overall better at everything except 3pt shooting. Gordon had a better defensive performance in his last 30 games, but Butler has been an excellent defender for the majority of his career.

There is desperation because CP3 is deteriorating while his salary is astronomical. If we don't act with urgency, we will piss away Harden's prime. There are no other top 20 players that the Rockets have the tools to acquire. This is yet again opportunity knocking on our door, and I hope the front office is ready to make some tough decisions.

Personally I would rather deal Capela, Nene and a pick to a 3rd team for assets that Sixers would like in exchange for an opted-in Butler. Looking at the FA pool, we can pick up a Dewayne Dedmon for the MLE and then we have our team set. All 5 can shoot, EG back leading the bench (and his contract expires right when Butler's extension kicks in), our C can shoot and Clark jumps in at backup PF, House as backup SF. It's a strong team, we would just have to sign a 3rd string PG for the minimum.

 

As I said before you have to see the ramifications and changes they are willing to make.....

Yes, even with Butler they need to improve the role players and I am still interested to see what they do with Eric Gordon.

Gordon did slow down Klay Thompson quite a bit in 3 games and he was averaging around 18-20ppg himself during that stretch.

As opposed to all the fans here, I dun think they trade off Capela just yet..... I think he stays unless CP3 is gone.

CP3 has his Center's back....... the Clippers only gave up DA Jordan when it was clear CP3 was going to go to another team.

 

The guy only shot 26.7% from the arc in the playoffs and 19.4 pts. Gordon shot 40% and 17.8 pts. I say go for an AD or KD type forward and really upgrade. Butler isn't the missing piece. Screw the small ball.

 

Alas, an alternative yet reasonable voice.

I think it will be the last time they try out ISO Ball and they will consider blowing it up the very next year if that fails.

They have to get younger talent from somewhere.

 

Hoping for some kind of an update today since Philly was eliminated.

 

EG vs JB, seems the only real difference is the defense and size.

Now that I'm thinking about it, I suppose I should like the fact that Tillman and DM are willing to go over the cap this season.

And the picture we were looking at for a chance at the title is even smaller. We're more focused on just beating GSW rather than all the other teams in the league.

JB is the man missing. PJ can guard a lot of 3's, 4's. But we really didn't have the myriad of defenders to guard Steph/Klay when it mattered the most.

Do we need someone like KL, KD, PG? Probably not. We have enough firepower offensively, we just got it twisted because we couldn't do anything defensively to stop them from going on a run. If we get enough stops, we have a very good chance of beating any team because we're almost the best offensively.

All said and done, we sign some nice 3/4/5 backups and get JB in a S&T, I guess we're good to beat GSW w/o KD. But Finals? Bucks? It's a bit short-sighted to think that's all we need to win the chip.

 

Our 3PT percentage will go down with him if you guys are talking playing him vs Gordon. Or, are you talking playing him in Paul's spot? I don't get this excitement.

 

I'm not hyping up anything at all in my post. I'm saying that our focus is just on beating GSW by trading EG and others for JB, and that's a short-sighted move because there's other teams to beat that poses different type of problems against the roster we'll build.

If we did make the move, I'd feel good about our chances of beating GSW, but not winning a title.

 

You don't want someone who can:

- attack consistently without losing the ball or pass it to the stands one time out of two
- go to the ft line almost like James
- shoot the mid range
- guard 3/4 positions
- create his own shot consistently
- get 6 rebound per game in a team with Embiid, Simmons and Harris
- come up big when it matters

...?

If the only thing we value is 3pt% just sign Korver for the vet min and start him, but you know it's not gonna work.

Watch how Embiid (aka "best center in the league/new Hakeem" etc) shoot from the field and then re-think about this...Sixers have a ton of talent but just a horrible fit as a team, Simmons is literally never attempting a 3pt shot and is way worse than Rubio to space the floor.

Butler is a 35% pt shooting player in the playoffs (Gordon is at 37%, don't see that big of a difference, Eric takes more 3s but he also takes a lot of dumb ones) and 44% from the field, without this stint with the Sixers he would be easily around 36/37% in knocking down 3s, just saying...he would get better looks too here, would be just fine.

 

so what coaches are available? can we trade Dantoni for Stevens lol
mark jackson, jeff van gundy?

 

He's not getting fired, seat has apparently been hot for ages. He's Morey's guy so I'm sure he'd not let Tilman do that.