The Super Soldier serum also prevents him from getting fatigued, he can run twice as fast as the fastest olympian, etc. He's not a super-powered being in that he's not as strong as Hulk or as fast as Flash, but no "natural" human could ever become him no matter how hard he worked, ate right, etc. Agree that the 5/10 guy was nuts/didn't pay attention. I'll add one more about the "Thanos wasn't portrayed consistently." There were only a handful of times in the movies anyone got the drop on Thanos: 1) Hulk's first confrontation 2) Thor with Stormbreaker 3) The Avengers with Captain Marvel at The Garden 4) Captain America with Mjolinir in Endgame 5) Wanda "You will" 6) Captain Marvel in the final battle Let's break these down in 10 seconds or less: Hulk: Took him by surprise, got whooped a few seconds after the surprise Thor: Again, took him by surprise and stabbed him with Stormbreaker. Didn't kill him, Thanos disappeared after the snap. Avengers with Captain Marvel: Took him by surprise AGAIN, plus he was in a terrible state AND they had Captain Marvel one shot him right away Captain America: Again, surprise from behind lol. A few minutes later Thanos was whipping that ass Wanda: Truly overpowered him here. She was wrecking him. That was his first interaction with her and clearly as long as you can't get close enough to hit her, she's super powerful Captain Marvel: This is the one time someone went toe to toe with Thanos. He was fully powered by the infinity stones and he couldn't overpower her. Then he took the power stone and punched her with it directly. He was portrayed consistently. With the single exception of Captain Marvel, NOBODY got the drop on Thanos in a physical confrontation without taking him by surprise and with the exception of Stormbreaker, nobody dealt any real damage. Wanda was able to use her telekinesis to really take him down but he couldn't physically overpower her or he would have killed her. Just like she struggled with his henchmen when they could get close enough to hit her and keep her from focusing fully.
By the way, seeing Wanda makes you hate the XMen stories even more. Like if they just killed off the XMEN cinematic universe you could have Wanda do all the same stuff Pheonix does without ever taking that name. She demonstrated some real power and if they took her down the road of the comics they could make her a real baddy in the next phase. Do House of M kind of stuff.
Yes, he was anxious to kill Thanos in the beginning - and that was BEFORE he became Fat Thor. He DID take convincing to go on the Time Heist (he wanted to stay home, drink beer and play video games with Korg, remember? Like I said, Fat Thor was briefly funny, but it quickly got to a point where he wasn't behaving consistently with the character of Thor. Like I said - after I've watched it a few times, I'll see if timeline plot holes are more evident. After my initial viewing, it doesn't feel like it works. Ok. I'll concede this one. A-Force? Is that anything like the A-Team? Maybe it resonates with comic readers. I'm not a comic reader and I had no idea who the A-Force is. It's probably both: a shout-out to the comic readers AND a social statement for the recent resurgence of feminist movements. You know perfectly well that they could have done a comic shout-out to ANY of COUNTLESS heroes; they chose the Estrogen Squad for a reason, and that's why, to me (a non-comic reader) it just stunk. That's because there are ZERO situations where the film makers are specifically going out of their way to drive a point that says, "Look at me! I'm a Man! I'm a powerful Man! And I'm here with my powerful man-friends! We're all men! Man-power!" That would be an equal turnoff. Just tell the story and stop trying to make a damn statement. Yup. A google image search shows that she sometimes had short hair. She also sometimes wore super-skimpy and revealing outfits. Are they going to have her wear that? Hell, no. The short hair fits the feminist image, but the skimpy outfit doesn't, does it?. Call me a liar. In ANY fight scene that didn't include Thanos, she would have dominated. But, then, that would be too easy, right? She was certainly needed more with the Avengers than wherever the hell she was. Avengers were trying to correct things for ALL planets EVERYWHERE throughout the universe, while she was on one planet doing we-don't-know-what. "Time periods she knew nothing about"? She returned to Earth in the 90's, dude. Your argument would be more appropriate for Tony, who time-traveled back to Rogers' time period and met his dad. The writers didn't have any qualms about sending him back to a time period that wasn't native to him. Certainly she could have time-warped back to the battle of New York and helped. Later, it would have been nice to have her powers on Earth when Thanos and his army arrived and blew up the Avengers building. "Where she wouldn't fit in"? She's not a lizard. She has no problem fitting in with humans. I'll somewhat concede this. Rocket did play a big part by going to Asgard and getting the Reality Stone that was in Jane Foster. And the rest of the GOG were out of existence until the end of the movie. So.. yeah. However, I felt like Rocket wasn't as rough around the edges as in previous movies. I guess you can explain that he softened up because he lost his family.... but nobody wants to see a soft Rocket. It would have been better and more accurate to his character for him to become MORE rough, not less. Ok. Conceded. Okay - that's just bull$hit. Captain has character AND super powers. That was the whole point of the first movie - go re-watch it. Lots of people all over the world have heart. Big deal. Look back on ANY of Cap's fight scenes and put Sam in his place - Sam gets killed in about 5 seconds. If you'd like, I can make exclamations like "Christ!", "Good Lord, man!", "Pay attention" like you have. Then we can BOTH be condescending. Would that make you feel better? Or maybe it just aggravates you that someone else has rational viewpoints that you don't agree with.
Watched it again last night. Have to say it was a better experience knowing what happens and just soaking in all the relationships you know will end soon. I also liked waiting to hear the expressions people made watching for the first time. Couple of things I want to figure out though. Is Loki still alive? Thanos won't be around to destroy the Asgardian ship. How will the snap affect Peter Parker? He's 5 years younger than half of his class mates now right? I wanna see how that is explained this summer.
Hmmmmm I was always under the impression that the super soldier serum gave him super-human powers. Think about the ways he jumps around; how he can survive long falls etc.
Stark memorials scene at the lake is 2023. Final Cap scene is essentially the same time (maybe a couple days later?) Spiderman Far From Home is said to be the 'last' Phase 3 movie. TBH I don't think they've actually said it's 2023, but I think they're missing a big chance to explore the post-snap post-unsnap world if it isn't.
All of them? That would be very very unlikely. 50% right? Maybe the new Spiderman is set before Infinity war. I guess we'll see.
In comix, he's olympian class for every attribute (strength, agility, endurance,etc...). But yeah, he also goes toe to toe with overpowered bads like Thanos in the comix too...
I think Loki from the "original" timeline is dead. But there is the one that took the tesseract when they went back in time. That may be what his show is about in the future.
Dude I TOTALLY forgot that scene. The Loki from that moment stole the tesseract and disappeared and he isn't "reformed" by that point in the timeline. Yes!
so there is a lot of post snap 2023 chaos i think the film never touched on. We see Scott Lang walking through SF and there is just a lot of chaos still apparent like crashed cars etc. We see Peter back in high school as well, but like Hulk was told to bring everyone back like how they were, but everyone else still aged 5 years. Half that high school technically should be people now aged 18-24 and not 13-18. Assuming that the ones who survived the snap were able to go back to high school because it seemed a majority of the world came to the complete standstill. What about those who may have committed suicide because of losing a love one in a snap? Now that love one comes back and they're gone. Or people who did manage to move on and re-marry and all only to find their spouse is now back.
Don't forget that the 'new' Loki in that alternate timeline has the Tesseract which is the Space Stone. It's conceivable that he could 'cross over' into our time-stream at some point. @Rocket River Cap is a 'PEAK' human on their best day ever, but every second of every day. He is better than everyone else, physically. Every extraordinary human story you've ever heard in the news, about mothers picking up cars to save babies, people swimming fifty miles to survive, that sort of stuff, he can do all day, every day. He's essentially Wolverine without the claws and adamantium skeleton. Not only is he a man-god in his physicality, he is the true north of the moral compass. He will literally die for his beliefs.That's why he can wield Mjolnir. He's worthy. @droxford If you think this movie is full of blatant feminism, you don't want to watch Captain Marvel, which was over the top and directed by a far inferior director. I personally had no problem with the lady parts in this movie, and the 30 second all-woman team was pretty cool, IMO.
Regarding the HS scene, I'm going to assume the 18-24 have moved on already, and the ones that are in HS now are the ones that vanished...
Yeah I think this is a weak part of the story. By just bringing everyone to present time so Iron Man didn't lose his daughter he would have created a LOT of mess and made things worse.
The movie is absolutely NOT full of blatant feminism. It's a three hour movie that had only a few seconds of blatant feminism.
I've been searching myself and still have yet to find any full quality clips. Just snippets here and there from people illegally recording from their cellphones in the theaters.
My bad, I mistyped. I meant that the small amount of feminism in Endgame vs the massive amount in Captain Marvel. There are articles starting to pop up that are examining the dark side of the 'bring everyone back to modern times' fallout. Lots of grim ****. Imagine getting Snapped and coming back and your family had moved on, like in Castaway? Or as you said, people who committed suicide because their newborn was just dusted....whoops, there's an orphan. It's an ethical dilemma because a lot of people have gone on with their lives in that five years and it's not fair to change it for them, either. And there's deeper ramifications like the world's output and economy shrinking to half it's size, suddenly you have double the people to suddenly support in a very basic way, food, medical, infrastructure. Yeah, they briefly touch on how the world is rebounding with the whales in the Hudson, but you have to have the infrastructure in place to harvest all of these rebounded resources. At the very least it would dissolve into a dark depression-eraesque sort of basic needs situation. Honestly, it would probably lead to some pretty quick wars, because all wars, in the end, are about resources.
