1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Morey ahead of the game, league's integrity compromised

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by JW86, Apr 30, 2019.

  1. hakeem94

    hakeem94 Member

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2016
    Messages:
    30,803
    Likes Received:
    41,420
    Morey has opened a can of worms
    what has been seen can not be unseen
     
    RayRay10, luckyman76 and dje243 like this.
  2. SemisolidSnake

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2013
    Messages:
    4,921
    Likes Received:
    5,803
    The league actually provides 48-minute reports to each individual team about the refereeing. These are like the last two-minute reports but for the entire game. You only get them for your team, not other teams. The Rockets requested them and have been poring over them starting with last year's WCF. That's what this report they sent to the league is based on. Now, I'm sure that the Rockets are also going over all sorts of other sources of data and video they've acquired and analyzed themselves to bolster their argument.

    The "shocking" thing here is that all that data got released right after Game 1. A team actually put it out there and called the league on it. I'm sure other teams do this sort of analysis to some degree, but Morey did it properly, and then played his hand. Either it was leaked it right after the game to the Athletic or maybe even before the game. (I'm presuming it was a thinly-veiled leak.) I bet this was planned way in advance, and it was just a matter of having the right source of ignition, which Game 1 certainly provided. It's brilliant, I think. Everyone's been talking about the reffing since the game.
     
  3. LG1200

    LG1200 Member

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2013
    Messages:
    105
    Likes Received:
    32
    Cuban sort of went off in a rant on a twitter thread. But looks like other teams have presented similar data to the NBA, just not publicly

    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I&#39;ve shared this privately , in one form or another, with the NBA since I&#39;ve been in the league. Thisbisbthe first time I&#39;ve shared in publicly. The sad part is that many teams, have shown data similar to that provided by <a href="https://twitter.com/dmorey?ref_src=twsrc^tfw">@dmorey</a> <a href="https://t.co/iAgv91S8Y8">https://t.co/iAgv91S8Y8</a></p>&mdash; Mark Cuban (@mcuban) <a href="">April 30, 2019</a></blockquote>
    <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
     
    RayRay10 likes this.
  4. hakeem94

    hakeem94 Member

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2016
    Messages:
    30,803
    Likes Received:
    41,420
  5. biff17

    biff17 Member

    Joined:
    May 8, 2018
    Messages:
    2,901
    Likes Received:
    1,382
    Yikes!

    That's gonna leave a mark.
     
    luckyman76, saleem and hakeem94 like this.
  6. saleem

    saleem Member

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2001
    Messages:
    30,219
    Likes Received:
    14,658
    Our GM has shown courage in speaking up before Game 2.
     
    luckyman76 and hakeem94 like this.
  7. Roc Paint

    Roc Paint Member

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2001
    Messages:
    22,329
    Likes Received:
    12,444
    What’s being compromised is my love for basketball
     
    saleem, luckyman76, Blatz and 2 others like this.
  8. YOLO

    YOLO Member

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2012
    Messages:
    46,688
    Likes Received:
    44,892
    the funny thing is the average fan will think morey actually said this and run with it
     
  9. The_Yoyo

    The_Yoyo Member

    Joined:
    Dec 25, 2001
    Messages:
    16,683
    Likes Received:
    2,873
    What was said was the Rockets were gathering ref data on their own across all the game and compiling tendencies for each ref. This ref will call more reach ins, this one more over the backs etc. and provided that data to their players. Once the league found out they ordered the Rockets to stop.
     
  10. SemisolidSnake

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2013
    Messages:
    4,921
    Likes Received:
    5,803
    Good. Morey just was the one with the stones to finally prick the bubble that one could reasonably deduce was growing behind the scenes. I'm sure other teams are glad it was him, too, because I'm sure they have no doubt that when Morey says something, he's got the ironclad data to substantiate it. He makes it a low risk to come out of the woodwork and back him up.
     
    hakeem94 likes this.
  11. hakeem94

    hakeem94 Member

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2016
    Messages:
    30,803
    Likes Received:
    41,420
    so he didnt actually say it?
    is there a way to check the authenticity of the tweet or the sources?
     
  12. YOLO

    YOLO Member

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2012
    Messages:
    46,688
    Likes Received:
    44,892
    nope. fake news to get clicks. exactly the kind of stuff the "black adam schefter" puts out to troll and you have people believing all of it. general rule of thumb if you're not posting something that's verified, it isn't something that's likely to be credible.

    there is no tweet or source. the only thing morey did was repost an article about kerr complaining about the refs. He has not said one word to be quoted
     
    biff17 and hakeem94 like this.
  13. durvasa

    durvasa Member

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2006
    Messages:
    38,892
    Likes Received:
    16,449
    Wow. That’s dumb. Maybe they should also put limits on how much game film players can watch of their opponents?

    Teams should have every right to study and gather info on all factors that can impact a game and inform their players accordingly.
     
    rbenavides01 and hakeem94 like this.
  14. hakeem94

    hakeem94 Member

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2016
    Messages:
    30,803
    Likes Received:
    41,420
    how can we know 100% he didnt say it, you werent following morey around 24h/7 listenin to every word he says?
    are you the morey?
     
  15. YOLO

    YOLO Member

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2012
    Messages:
    46,688
    Likes Received:
    44,892
    it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know if something like that was said the millions of media around the world would of caught it instantly.

    yet you think some random troll twitter account caught it. come on now. don't be so gullible. any sort of material like that would be reported on verified credible outlets easily.
     
    hakeem94 likes this.
  16. Rocket River

    Rocket River Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 1999
    Messages:
    65,000
    Likes Received:
    32,705
    He has NUMBERS to support what Donaghy was saying
    The NBA got off light with that but this brings it all back to the headlines
    and having numbers and video to back it up . . . .. looks like a case of Law and Order

    I been saying all day . . .the NBA is looking more and more like WrestleMania
    less like a competitive sport

    Rocket RIver
     
    luckyman76, Blatz and hakeem94 like this.
  17. macan

    macan Member

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2017
    Messages:
    6,878
    Likes Received:
    10,487
    love Morey's work. support him 100%. looks like NBA league office gonna be busy this summer.
     
    luckyman76 and hakeem94 like this.
  18. The_Yoyo

    The_Yoyo Member

    Joined:
    Dec 25, 2001
    Messages:
    16,683
    Likes Received:
    2,873

    I agree which is why is frustrating the league preaches transparency but does very little to back that up.

    - Teams cannot collect data on their own
    - Full 48 reports are only available if your team played in the game
    - Your methodology is incorrect but does nothing to provide clarification why its wrong OR provide a better methodology
    - L2M are made - then parameters are changed - then they do nothing to change the outcome of the game except "sorry we were wrong"

    It is really damning towards the league.
     
  19. hakeem94

    hakeem94 Member

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2016
    Messages:
    30,803
    Likes Received:
    41,420
    i am not checking what millions of media around the world is saying 24/7...
    but it didnt sound like morey because hes always very careful and respectful.. the tweet was probably a salty/malevolent paraphrase of that morey tweet posting the old video on how kerr reacts to bad officiating
     
  20. YOLO

    YOLO Member

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2012
    Messages:
    46,688
    Likes Received:
    44,892
    and that's how the trolls get the casual fans to believe its actually quoted. they did their job.
     
    luckyman76, Rocket River and hakeem94 like this.

Share This Page