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The significance of having a 3-point shooting center available

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Tuk88, Apr 25, 2019.

  1. Tuk88

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    topfive, my bad, just projecting on to you how tired I am of the self righteous who take the time to shame fellow Rockets fans from trying to have discussions they want to have just because they already covered that topic five months ago on the 15th page 243 threads ago with their 25,029th post. Like, we all don't have a life and are supposed to know that. Man, that felt good to get off my chest.

    Anyway, I don't think it's a coincidence the Bucks have TWO 7 footers that can play center and shoot threes, have the best record, and beat us both times, the last one not being close at all. It'd be nice to have ONE, and I hope Hart is that guy next year (and who **** cares if holic is a HOF, not that I can stand the guy either) based on hopeful developments like being named G-League player of the year. But I guess this was already discussed a long time ago, like every other thread here.
     
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    Tbh i thought this was another Holic thread to sht on Capela for lack of a 3pt shot, is this a burner's account?
     
  3. luckyman76

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    Do stretch centers off reb, get alley oops, set picks, help spacing... should I keep going? Are two 3PT FGM/game worth what is lost? Please don't argue the threat or the attempts. You further hurt your argument. Rim protector/roll attacker means exactly that in a PnR based offense. Brook Lopez doesn't play D. Robin did to a degree. Would you rather have Gobert, Capela or Brook Lopez? That is the choice. The Dream was about as close as you will ever get to the performance balance required of a shooting big that is the ultimate defender. He was a 6'10" soccer player with dexterity and agility and ability I have never seen in a guy that size. Sure you can get a skinny Durant but Shaq would have busted him down low. The Dream was the ultimate disrupter who could range just about anywhere. It actually hurt his excellent rebounding totals. The Dream wasn't a stat machine; however, he was a winner. As we know with KLove, Boogie, Towns, and a host of other stat padders they aren't well known for winning.
     
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    Most likely, take a closer look at the posts.
     
  5. Severe Rockets Fan

    Severe Rockets Fan Takin it one stage at a time...

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    Where's Sam Perkins when you need him?
     
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    Faried will get paid more the min wage this summer
     
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    TWO? Please don’t tell me you’re referring to Pau Gasol as the other. He’s scored 4 points.... total... in a Bucks uniform.
     
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    lnchan Sugar Land Leonard
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    But this account is more active on the Astros side... which makes me question this theory...
     
  9. Wooderson

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    I cannot see any way that losing Capela's defense and his chemistry with Harden & Paul would be worth adding a tall guy parked at the line shooting threes.

    Capela is probably the ideal center in the NBA for what Houston is doing.
     
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    He got hot for one game. Meanwhile, you didn't realize he was shooting 25% from 3 the rest of the final series.
     
  11. Tuk88

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    The thread title is about having a stretch center AVAILABLE, not starting and playing the entire game. But hey, if cognitive bias suits you. And be sure to tell the Bucks they're doing it wrong.

    Btw, if Tillman had a dime for every post wasting our time arguing over what's a burner account or not or a reddit-style competition for snarkiest remark on why this shouldn't be a thread, we'd be able to pay the luxury tax EVERY year.

    And, I suppose I created this account in 2003 to be a burner account? Makes sense.

    Seriously though, I don't post that much because of the sheer amount of contempt and hate that's laced into so many of the posters. It's ugly. Can't say there's no correlation between that and the fact so many people think we have a terrible fan base. Haters gonna be hated. Maybe try getting away from the screen every once in a while vs trying to count post numbers, that'll do wonders.
     
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    Holic burner account confirmed.
     
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    If not 'holic... has to be Hartenstein's or Motiejunas's agent...

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    I do find it interesting that Rockets 88 chose this topic to be the one to fight over... after Capela had a career year and an atrocious two respiratory illness game.
     
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    Yalls boy is available.

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  15. sirbaihu

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    I have a better solution: have every player be awesome at 3-pointers and every other aspect of the game. Why don't we just fill our roster with all-stars? Duh.
     
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    The Rockets have tried to get a 5 that can shoot the 3.

    The Rockets went after Brook Lopez and Markieff Morris and failed to lure either one of them.

    It isn't a "must" that the Rockets have a 5 with range, but it does open up other avenues on offense.

    The issue has mostly been that the Rockets need a 5 that can also be respectable on the boards and on defense..... and most the guys that can shoot 3's and play the 5 cannot defend and rebound as well.

    The Rockets also thought that they had solved some of the issues with JaMychal Green at the deadline, but the Grizzlies pulled out.
     
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    You mad.

    LOL.
     
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    Your post just confirmed 100% of mine because you made no effort to refute any of the facts. I have no idea what the hell you are talking about other than responding to posts that had nothing to do with mine. You make a thread with a position expecting honest responses and I addressed it sincerely. No one has a problem with having versatility but there is a reason why a rim protector on the floor is exactly THAT. If someone is available for 10-15 minutes as a backup they are not playing against Gobert. That has no effect on the Jazz's D and they would live with whatever happened just like we lived with Rubio shooting the ball. For your plan to have any merit it would be the starter being a stretch 5. That person would be moved away from the rim on offense and the PnR, rim attack, and off rebounding would crater. Defense to it would be 5 on 4. There is a trade-off to almost everything. We value rim protection/attack over 3's which is why we have so many other shooters for spacing. ALL of Capela's offense is off the roll and at the rim. He shoots around 70%. Earlier this season against the Warriors he had a 30/20 game against them. A center shooting the 3 is not doing that damage and certainly not as efficiently.

    Hartenstein is a nice player with good skills and promise that is superior to what we saw with Zhou Chi. That player is not cracking a playoff rotation. When he was on the floor this season he just didn't fit out there. It's like rhythm in music. The footwork, timing, speed, and comfort are just off. Capela went through this and it seems like speeding up to slow down. All of the speed is in the decision and anticipation of what to do and the ending action is calm, fluid, and rehearsed. I truly feel one thing that hurt us with all of the injuries is that we couldn't give him and others the time out there to learn in blowouts or more mixed in throughout the game to get a better feel for the real game. They had to rely solely on the G League. With an older team, I would love to see us move more toward a 10-12 deep rotation to offset our usage of Harden, CP3, and Tuck.
     
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    Bingo, this is the big issue. What we need is a player who can play center, guard other teams centers, also be a very good switch defender, is a good rebounder, and can also shoot the 3. Literally every team in the NBA needs this player. Does that player even exist?
     
  20. lnchan

    lnchan Sugar Land Leonard
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    And stay healthy while at it...
     

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