Yeah... Macron is trying to improve the EU... France is a pretty powerful member of the EU, I think France and Germany tell Brussels what to do and not the other way around.
It's not the EU's fault that the UK's political system is EXTREMELY antiquated and flawed, encourages tyranny of the executive and supress any cross party cooperation with an iron whip! Uk's MPs do not know how to compromise with each other. The government doesnt know how to listen to parliament. Their laws make it such that if the PM is a crazy Neron they can do whatever ignoring everyone else, even though its supposedly to be a parliamentary democracy. It's not the EU's fault that the UK has a severe lack of capable politicians and two egoistical short sighted leaders of the main parties. It's not the EU's fault that they have a first out of the door election system that supress multiparties. The schism within the Tory Party isnt the EU's fault. Do you think that such extreme rightwingers and xenophobic racists in the conservatives backbenches appeared out of thin air and are EU's spies? The schism within the Labour party isnt the EU's fault. Do you think that anarchists and antisemisists in their backbenches are the EU's spies? Before the Brexit negotiations started many EU officials, Foreign Ministers were saying that the UK is the most competent in negotiating and they were scared that they will be divided and get bullied. If they are so genius to turn with a masterplan the most competent negotiating country to a farce then it is worth to be ruled by them! But they aren't. The problems were a LOOOONG time in the making and they only came in the forefront because of how crucial the situation is.
EU leaders agree to delay Brexit until end of October, Reuters reports Reuters have just snapped this. EU leaders agreed on Thursday to delay Brexit until the end of October, with a review in June, diplomatic sources told Reuters. 17 wanted a longer extension, France wanted a super short and 3 were neutral. In the end they compromised. Octomber wasn't chosen by luck, it is just before the Tories conference where May will have to resign. If in Octomber they find in front of them a Boris Johnson new PM then there is no point in negotiating further.
"British participation could change the political balance in the next European legislature, EU officials fear, as Britons are seen electing strongly Eurosceptic lawmakers, boosting already growing numbers of nationalists who seek to weaken the bloc. Yet Britain’s Labour party, if it fields candidates, could boost the weight of the socialist grouping in the EU assembly, potentially allowing the centre-left to gain a majority. Polls in the remaining 27 EU countries currently predict the centre-right will win most seats in the next EU parliament - so when Britain and its MEPs leave the EU, the majority in the European assembly could change. That raises uncertainty over the next executive commission, which must be approved by European lawmakers. As a result, EU officials are considering extending the mandate of the existing executive led by Jean-Claude Juncker beyond its term which expires at end of October, the senior official said. This extension, which would be limited to a few months, would avoid the risk that a changed power balance in the EU parliament after Brexit could raise doubt about the legitimacy of the new executive, the official said." Also this. Reassures that the EU parliament will be able to function after the departure of Britain. Though I can bet that the Britons will NOT be electing mostly eurosceptic MEPs and I'm surprised that the EU still believes they will. I have seen tons of remainers who didn't bother to vote start rallying to support Remain parties already. Not Labour but Green and Lib Dem.
i guess it's also not the EU's fault that tsipras suddenly decided to kneel before brussels and accept even worse austerity terms than what 60% of his people had just voted against hours prior
"The June “break clause” has been put in to appease France, as President Emmanuel Macron wanted assurances that the UK would conduct European elections properly." So it is considered so far as France's win in negotiations.
There's a reason here noone is blaming the EU. That complete farce of a referendum was organised in like 1 week. People didn't even have time to get informed of what they were voting for. I don't have a tv and was studying for uni exams and I barely found out that there was a referendum 2 days before elections. If Tsipras was such a democratic leader that supported referendums we would have one now for FYROM something that the people actually are fighting to vote for on the streets with million of people rallying and he would lose it by 99%. But he doesn't even attempt it. Because he is a clown. Also I don't trust the illiterate plumper from next door with his vote, to shape the future of our economy when even professionals don't even know well when they are talking about.
Macron is the equivalent of an NBA player screaming hold me back to show he's tough to his fans, while both he and everyone else just want to get it over with without anything bad happening and continue the game. From the beginning he only played such an extreme hard stance to score brownie points with the French who don't like the British even though France is one of the most hard hit countries by a potential no deal Brexit. Theatrics for the naives. An extremely short extension would never be agreed.
i can say without a shred of doubt, that had tsipras taken greece out of the euro 4yrs ago, greece would be in a far far better financial position today. but that is simply not allowed. witness the fate of berlusconi after publicly broaching that for italy in dec '12. he was swiftly replaced with ex goldman (surprise surprise) mario monti. today greece on the whole is a nation of debt slaves, with scant hope for growth and recovery going forward. picture the knicks w/ their management team in place, 1/2 the salary cap of the other teams, no first round picks for the next 15yrs, and maybe TOR or MIL can just come and take knox/robinson if they want too
You can say that but I can't. You expect people who have no idea about economy to educate themselves on what's better in... 10 days? About such an important life altering decision??And that is if unlike me they had the time back then to even follow the debates. The referendum was from the beginning a facade giving noone the time to be informed about extremely complex issues which in their first place should NOT have been put on referendums. Cancelling the result is not a denial of democracy since the way of conduct of the referendum itself was an insult to democracy. I don't blame the EU and noone else here does for cancelling it. We know our politicians are corrupt idiots already. Plus from the beginning I am against at putting such issues on referendums. But if they have to be put you must at the very least allow 6 months or more for the citizens to even comprehend what they are asked to vote for.
see i agree that 10days is insufficient time. but then, 1) a majority of the people (whether intentionally or just thru dumb luck) actually voted the right way for the country's future and 2) tsipras immediately just ignored them anyways by cancelling the result and shockingly unilaterally signing up to absolutely horrid terms heavily in the favor of brussels + the banks merkel represents. so in no way was democracy carried out there in what is supposed to be the cradle of democracy. and even more puzzling is that you say everyone there knows their politicians are corrupt idiots -- and then they re-elected this clown tsipras just a few months later! btw also, are you saying that 6 months isn't enough time for the UK 2nd referendumb as well?
The result is irrelevant when it's birthed due to a procedure that is in essence undemocratic. The purpose of democracy isn't that the "right" choice is made but a choice that represents the will of the people. People informed and able to express their free will. A 10 day time period isn't anywhere close to the circumstances for a democratic referendum of a modern country to be conducted unless the country is the size of Monaco or every citizen has Phds on economics. They voted for him again because he is a populist who can promise milk and honey and his main opposition is the conservative party who is one of the main culprits for the situation in the first place. It wasn't like many of his voters like him but because they knew the alternative was proven for 50 years to be rotten already. The UK has had 3 years, almost 4 to learn, consider and educate itself about the EU question. It's not something new out of the blue. The whole British society right now is divided to remainers and brexiters smh. I have read many stories of Britons who have stopped relationships with friends and family over Brexit. It is extremely polarised and they know what they want in either side. To see the usually apathetic Brits have 1 million strong rallies in itself is enough proof that they are "outraged" for their standards. I don't think that the two situations is comparable in anyway. If we were allowed to have a second referendum now too, on the same question I am sure people would be much more informed. Even though 10 days would still not be enough! I couldn't even go to vote because I was out of town.
again, tsipras was elected under an anti-austerity platform and then turned around and defied his own voters signing onto the harshest austerity program anyone there had ever heard of at the time. may is on record saying no deal brexit is better than a bad deal. and then she tries to get the worst fuking deal imaginable passed thru parliament -- multiple times! i brought up the berlusconi coup. i ask one question for all these bizzarre instances... who benefits?
If they wanted to leave, the EU couldn't stop them. But there's no reason the EU has to forgive their debt or trade with them. The EU exists to serve the interests of its members - not provide charity. Tspiras stood down because he didn't want to send his country into a massive depression (worse than it was) regardless of the long-term benefits. The benefits would have been a decade-plus away - there's no real question that Greece would have been a far worse trainwreck today. Ultimately, Greece probably needs to decouple with the Euro to really get on track, but in the short-term, it would have been a total nightmare - far worse than even Brexit (for Greece, not the EU).
I'm shocked - SHOCKED! - that no-deal Brexit isn't happening on April 12th. Who could have foreseen that?! Mojoman, can you please stop posting your nonsense here for the next 6 months? I can go ahead and tell you - everything you post will continue to be 100% wrong.
