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Trump supporters and defenders

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by FranchiseBlade, Apr 6, 2019.

  1. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    Yes, a blended economy of capitalism and socialism together. What I find is that failing economies that incorporate some measure of socialism are tagged as "socialist" while failing economies that are capitalist don't carry a stigma as "capitalist". It's the double standard that is promoted. Probably due to the fact that first world capitalist countries feed on third world capitalist countries for cheap resources and labor so they're less likely to talk down about third world capitalism. Capitalism is economic Darwinism.

    So Venezuela is failed socialism but any number of European countries aren't successful socialism. There are no threads on this forum created by conservative capitalists talking about the success of socialism in such countries.
     
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  2. Dubious

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    I think because they see no other way for self preservation after years of propaganda. They really think the white man will become a minority, they really think socialism will stop them from being prosperous, they really think the US is militarily vulnerable. They really think recognizing climate change will make them energy peasants.
     
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  3. quikkag

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    This is brilliant observation. Thank you, CW, for framing the matter in that way.
     
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  4. quikkag

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    ...and ultimately it comes down to fear of change and lack of confidence to navigate within it.
     
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    I just noticed that the cannon says "You're Fired" :D
     
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    This refers to an article in Politico:

    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/04/10/donald-trump-mount-vernon-george-washington-1264073

    The article has some amazing insights into trump...

    Trump’s ‘truly bizarre’ visit to Mt. Vernon
    The 45th president — no student of history — marveled at the first president’s failure to name his historic compound after himself.
    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/04/10/donald-trump-mount-vernon-george-washington-1264073
     
  7. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    They are not deep thinkers.

    DD
     
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  8. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    False. You are falling victim once again (just like Russian collusion) to media spin as they promote their narratives. Trump is not racist and has never uttered a racist comment. It is a true statement that some rapists, murderers, and drug dealers are coming across the border. Not all, but some. True statement.

    North Korean relations were horrible under Obama. We were at the brink of nuclear war! Now we are not and the two sides are engaged in talks. Huge advantage Trump.

    Once again, just like Russia collusion, you are played for a fool by the media. The Trump Tower meeting with Natalia Veselnitskaya was a total setup. She met before and after the meeting with Glenn Simpson from Fusion GPS -- yes, the same Fusion GPS who authored the dirty and discredited dossier that helped launch the false narrative on Russian collusion. That you fell for. Furthermore, it was Obama's State Department, and Preet Bharara that granted the visa to allow Natalia Veselnitskaya into the country! She was banned from entering before this. This was a SETUP and it will all come out. The approaches by Joseph Mifsud and Alexander Downer to George Papadoupolos were similar setups -- all intended to give reason for the FBI and CIA to investigate Russian collusion. All intended to damage Trump's candidacy and then once he was elected, the intention became to overturn the will of the people and boot him from office. Your Trump-hate blinds you to being able to see how dirty all of this was -- by the Obama Administration and intel agencies.

    False. Obama's weakness embarrassed the nation on a global stage for 8 years. Trump's strength is getting things done. America is respected again. The D-Day grave visit has been completely debunked, yet you fall for fake news again like a gullible person!

    False, the opposite is true. Obama's foreign policy will go down in the global Hall of Shame for ineptitude and ineffectiveness. The great migration in Syria was caused by Obama allowing Assad to walk all over him. ISIS was created under Obama's incompetent watch! Obama failed miserably to negotiate with North Korea. Obama failed miserably to tackle the growing crisis on the Mexican border -- and he even implemented the child separation policy! Obama promised more flexibility after the election with Dmitri Medvedev when he was Prime Minister of Russia -- total weakness! Trump is a true leader -- his threats are respected. Obama was concerned with the environmental impact of bombing ISIS! What a pu$$y!

    False. Trump is not a lawyer and has spent most of his career promoting real estate projects and entertainment events (boxing, TV show, consumer products). He speaks in hyperbole and in grand terms. It's not intended to be taken literally at all times. Sometimes, but not all times.

    Weak and False. You provide no supporting evidence because you can't. He's had the entire media, save Fox, targeting him for years. He had the Special Counsel's 13 angry democrat prosecutors targeting him for 2 years (investigating a person, not a crime). He's had the SDNY targeting him, looking for/inventing crimes to go after him... and what has turned up? Nothing but an extortion attempt from a p*rn star. Clean. Look at Michelle Obama's vacation expenses if you want to complain.

    JFK and Bill Clinton say hi. Vice President candidate John Edwards says hi. Anthony Weiner says hi. Trump is extremely smart and educated at Wharton. I forgot, where did you go, Southwest Texas State or San Jac?

    False. He uses trade wars as points of leverage to negotiate better deals. He is making America respected again on the global stage instead of being a doormat for other countries to walk all over (like under Obama)

    False. He reversed and overturned the Obama-era policy of caging families and separating families.

    Oh good grief. Hillary was using an unsecure homemade email server to store thousands of classified emails! And now you try to use this Iphone falsehood to hit Trump for keeping information secret? The Chinese and Russians tapped into Hillary's emails, and of course Wikileaks did as well. Furthermore, look at all the democrats who have purposefully leaked confidential information! FBI GC James Baker, Jim Comey, Andrew McCabe, Clapper and Brennan -- the list goes on and on!

    Son, you just got OWNED

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  9. Andre0087

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    That's a bunch of bullshit in red ink.
     
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  10. edwardc

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    i have to agree with you .They continue to support this clown he never should have been allowed to run without showing his taxes and now he claims he still won't which is BS if it had been Obama not showing his his supports would be having a fit.
     
  11. El_Conquistador

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    After two years of Russian lies, the liberals need to start showing evidence before they can be believed. Show me where you think Trump was racist. Actual words from him -- not media spin. We can't take you all at your word anymore without verifiable proof.

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    Trump was only branded a (fake) racist when he ran for office. Because that's the card liberals often pull when they are out of valid arguments.

    GOOD DAY
     
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  12. fchowd0311

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    I think their plenty valid arguments besides his bigotry to show how he is vastly under-qualified to be President from being a trust fund baby who nutted out of a 413 million dollar penis who spent most of his adult life trying to fool idiots into believing he's a self made individual to being involved with NY mob, bankrupting Casinos and being involved in money laundering schemes. His bigotry is just a turd cherry on top of a pile of ****.

    He's an easy target for comedy because of how much of an idiot he is.
     
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  13. Andre0087

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    So a few pictures with black folks makes the case? What are you trying to prove here?
     
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    Racists believe that being in the presence of black people is proof they can tolerate them. It's such an odd argument.

    Notice every GOP politican when accused of bigotry or defending a bigot will jump straight to the "they employment black people" or "I have a black relative".

    They are basically saying "I can tolerate black people in my circle, therefore that is verified proof that I don't hold bigoted views of black culture".
     
  15. El_Conquistador

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    Andre, you were asked to post racist comments from Trump to support your position that Trump is racist. Are you unable to post a single comment? If so, then you should reconsider your uninformed opinion.

    GOOD DAY
     
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  16. fchowd0311

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    I think when right wing troll posters ask for evidence for Trump being bigoted and racist, they are merely attempting to try to waste our time linking sources and typing responses because we've done it thousands of times by now.

    You are asking from an insincere position and honestly I wish Clutch would ban posters like you because of your lack of sincerity when posting on the D&D when many posters are genuinely trying to have a sincere conversation. It makes this sub forum far more toxic and less enjoyable.
     
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  17. Buck Turgidson

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    TJ gets his rocks off playing the troll. I wish people would just stop taking the bait.
     
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  18. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    You can't even post a single racist comment. Speaks to your ignorant position, really. Then you go running to Clutch for help in banning people who you can't defeat in debate! Weak minds shouldn't step to The_Conquistador!

    GOOD DAY
     
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  19. fchowd0311

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    Good idea. I don't particularly like placing posters on ignore because it can make conversations in a thread unclear and convoluted. I'll just pretend that his posts don't exist anymore.
     
  20. Andre0087

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    What's the backstory on his user name? I remember someone mentioning it a while back but I forgot what happened.
     

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