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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by FranchiseBlade, Apr 6, 2019.

  1. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    You might be a wingnut if you have another hardcore democrat friend.

    You're actually the one who freaked out. As soon as I made that post you started stalking me around the forum.

    Talk about a worthless conversation. Here's your boy drawing hard and firm lines with Russia. Your boy has called the Russian meddling a hoax about a thousand times. Hard and firm line. Yep. Of course two of Russia's biggest geopolitical goals are to weaken NATO and diminish the EU. Guess who's been complicit in those goals? Yep, your boy.

     
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  2. robbie380

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    Those books look like echo chambers at first glance. I’ll explore them further in the morning but the premise that Trump was cultivated by Russia for 30 years is ridiculous. He has basically zero success in Russia with his business and the geography of his business success is well documented even if people don’t want to accept it for whatever strange reason. The reality is that Russia has not benefitted with Trump as president.



    Go to 4:30 if you don’t feel like watching the video. Like I said earlier maybe people will pay more attention to a source that isn’t me.
     
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  3. robbie380

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    Comets are you over or under the age of 50?

    And I didn’t freak out lol...I pushed back at your name calling and online belligerence. You don’t act like this towards people in real life and you know this. I’ve responded to you before and you’ve now cherry picked your response.

    Lastly do you have any commentary on Trumps policy towards Cuba and Venezuela? Would you term it as pro Putin?
     
  4. CometsWin

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    Irrelevant to my knowledge of English.

    Is that what you're saying? Only teenagers say Democrat Party? Mkay.

    Are we having a nuanced discussion on Russia yet? I'd like to know how overruling every intelligence agency in your own government and calling Russian meddling a hoax is drawing a hard and firm line.
     
  5. robbie380

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    Sorry I edited my post...I’ll include that here

    And I didn’t freak out lol...I pushed back at your name calling and online belligerence. You don’t act like this towards people in real life and you know this. I’ve responded to you before and you’ve now cherry picked your response.

    Lastly do you have any commentary on Trumps policy towards Cuba and Venezuela? Would you term it as pro Putin?
     
  6. robbie380

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    @CometsWin your knowledge of English is clearly spectacular and that’s why you chose to say I must have learned English as a second language. I asked your age because you’ve usually chosen the juvenile route when talking to people here. I’m guessing you’re a person of a certain age based on your online etiquette.
     
  7. CometsWin

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    Certainly looks like freaking out when you start replying to me in random threads out of the blue like you did here.

    I would term them as minor by comparison to Syria, NATO, the EU, and the United States. The people who talk about Venezuela are mostly wingnuts who like to use it to point out socialism's failures. It's boring.
     
  8. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    No, English is my second language so no. I think conservatives have been spreading codified language for some time. So you use Democrat Party or death tax or virtue signaling or SJW or any number of other slogans or terms then it just lets me know where you're coming from before you start. Sort of like an accent that way. Language matters.

    I think you'll find the maturity level of this forum has fallen off the deep end for some time now. In fact quite a few people here use cartoons, youtube videos, and photoshopped pictures to debate.
     
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  9. robbie380

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    I don’t think I’ve ever used the terms death tax, sjw (maybe at some point I’ve used that term but I can’t recall), or virtue signaling on here. You are the one who said you are keeping track of me so feel free to find the times I used those terms if I ever did because I can’t remember using them.

    And it’s funny you talk about maturity when you led in with the name calling. I mean seriously??
     
  10. robbie380

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    And then I see this gem of a post....

    I started calling your name out because you starting talking your online bs to me for no good reason. I tried to be civil but then you have to take it a step even lower. You keep insulting me and you keep talking bs.

    I’ve donated to help kids there that don’t have ****, dying of cancer because the doctors left their cities and that are starving. Minor, boring, and used by wingnuts....whatever *******...

    I’m trying to put together suitcases with my gf to help get some basic necessities, basic medical supplies, and antibiotics and whatever so that life isn’t such ****. She is the one that has to smuggle the things into that ****ed up place that you casually want to dismiss because it doesn’t fit what you want to see. She’s the one who had parents eating a cup of rice a day. They were supposedly to be living off government pensions it didn’t want to tell anyone they didn’t have anything to eat. We had to wire them US Dollars so they could buy food on the black market to eat. Their worthless currency doesn’t buy **** in their empty grocery stores. You’re a privileged blind fool who thinks socialism has redeeming qualities when in reality it concentrates power, increases wealth inequality, increases corruption and inefficiency, and decreases opportunities for the general population with the necessary totalitarian aspect that are needed to enforce it. The refugee crisis there is greater than Syria and getting worse fool.

    **** off with your bullshit about maturity when you keep up with your condescending, dismissive, insulting attitude here.

    @justtxyank can you ban me from D&D? I think you’re an admin now. I’m done with this ****. I’ve read thru my post more than a few times and I’ve edited down the inflammatory language. Normally I try to be reserved and measured with my posts but I don’t feel like it anymore. This forum only makes Clutchfans worse. It’s playoff time and I don’t need to be coming to this forum. I try to keep myself out of here but I’m the real fool for coming back. I genuinely like talking about public policy and current events, but there is nothing to be debated or discussed here. It’s just an online pissing contest.
     
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  11. quikkag

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    I had more respect for Chomsky before I saw that interview. I believe there to be plenty of merit to the sources he mentions of influence on US congressional as well as presidential elections. But the man, in response to the Russian collusion question, responds "I don't know and I don't care", then speculates a bit. On the other hand we have the July 13 2018 indictment from the Mueller team, and the two books I mentioned, again, thoroughly researched. I think I'll take these latter over Mr. Chomsky's speculation and absence of care.
     
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    I still respect Chomsky, even with his advanced age, because he's still able to hammer the harder points. We've been desensitized to corporate influence/money and have totally capitulated to the decisions of 9 people over what constitutes as "speech" without nary a fight in legislating controls over the ruling's precise terms.

    I'm in the camp the hack jobs on the DNC and Clinton campaigns were significant and deliberate, but I'm not going to go as far as impeachment because of the high degree of difficulty for a conviction. Chomsky's issue, OTOH, is a lingering and persistent problem in American Democracy and won't be changed any time soon.

    I would hypothetically relish on the salty tears of the ****nuts who voted in Trump as a revenge candidate during their primaries.

    Hate begets hate. Something something Dark Side.
     
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  13. glynch

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    90% of Republicans are still hanging with Trump.
     
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    Are saying that FB is bias to the point that he will not listen to your reasons for defending 45 even though the things he does are horrible and don't really help Americans at all.
     
  15. justtxyank

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    @robbie380 I don't have the power to ban you from this forum.

    @Clutch will have to handle that unless he decides to expand my authoritay
     
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  16. CometsWin

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    You seem to have trouble following the conversation. You said I was taking the "juvenile route" so you brought up maturity, I simply responded. I mean seriously!?!??!
     
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    My father is Venezuelan and my mother is Puerto Rican so thanks for the info but I'm well aware of the struggles going on in both places. Maybe you should re-group and compose yourself.
     
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    Russia benefits from Trump every day. Capricious whipsawing of policies for and against allies and foes destroys any cohesiveness for Western Liberal Democracies. The discounting of truth and facts allows Putin and his proxies to match it with increasing boldness till there is no basis of truth. His total lack of nuance is ending 40 years of crafted statesmanship, the kind that prevents larger conflicts. And his utter stupidity undermines the United States as a beacon for other nations. We must be a nation of lying untrustworthy morons.

    ERIC TRUMP 2014 : “WE HAVE ALL THE FUNDING WE NEED OUT OF RUSSIA”
     
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  19. cml750

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    Cometwins is not worth you quitting this forum. I think you are a great middle of the road person who offers a lot to this forum. Just put CW on ignore and continue on just as you have.
     
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    I understand you experienced suffering but using your personal anecdote to place yourself on a high horse about the atrocities of socialism over another poster is kinda sad and is exactly the "pissing match" that you allegedly try to refrain from.

    Also, comparing the US economy and Venezuelan economy on a 1:1 basis assuming both economies require the same exact solutions is kinda silly. Also, @CometsWin isn't asking for the government take over of Exxon Mobile. He's asking for the type of socialism that exists in many European countries and our neighbors to our North.

    You are beating up a strawman. Every modern developed nation is a mixture of public and private sector. The debate is where that ratio lies. No country is only one thing or the other. The US has had a healthcare problem for decades now. Too many people are not on health insurance. Too many Americans have to file for bankruptcy because of medical bills. Americans pay the most per capital in healthcare costs on the planet. It's a problem and don't be surprised many people think that a product that has inelastic demand should be in the public sector.

    Because Americans don't live in horrible conditions as Venezuelans today, doesn't mean there are several shortcomings with our economic system that can be improved.
     
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