of fuking course they will, they stand by far the most to lose financially in the case of no deal. again this back&forth show has all just been kabuki theatre for public consumption w/ the aim of exhausting the commoners to the point that they never want to hear anything brexit again
Simplest and most fair resolution to this. Put out a new referendum with the following options: Remain Labour Deal Tory Deal No-Deal Leave And do preferential voting. Everyone votes on their 1st, 2nd, and 3rd choice. Assuming nothing has a majority, eliminate the 4th place option, and then reallocate their votes based on their 2nd choice. Repeat again until something has 50%. Everyone gets their voice heard and can vote on what they want most. Mojo could for (1) No-Deal, 2) Tory Deal, then (3) Labour Deal. Or a Remainer could vote for (1) Remain, (2) Labour, (3) Tory, for example. A moderate-hard Brexiter could vote (2) Tory, (1) No-Deal, (3) Labour Deal. The end result would be the option that the most people find acceptable.
Maybe they could vote on that before the EU Emergency Summit next Wednesday, which will be the last chance for the EU Council to approve an extension for that reason. And of course they will need to vote to approve participation in the May 23-26, 2019 EU Parliamentary elections at the same time. If the UK Parliament were to actually get all of that done before next Wednesday, I sincerely believe that in that case the EU Council would certainly grant the UK's extension request.
Did you forget already what happened tonight? They passed a whole law in a single day. A very complex manoevre. All they have to do is vote exactly like this and they will pass a vote for EP elections. Sorry to break it to you but no deal is already dead. The numbers are clear and there aren't enough numbers to support it.
The simplest and best is just a confirmatory referendum on the Corbyn-May deal and remain. Or general elections.
The numbers are not there to support anything except endless delay. That passed by one vote. They have voted against everything else over the last year. Meanwhile, the autopilot is still set to Brexit with no deal on April 12, 2019 (Next Friday). That IS the law of the land, both here and across the EU.
Oh they won't agree to anything like that by then. Likely we'll either have an outline of a May-Corbyn deal that needs lots of work or an agreement to a new process (election, referendum, whatever). That would be more than enough for the EU to agree to an extension. Even a promise of "we're trying!" would almost certainly get an extension at the end of the day - because the EU does not want no-deal either.
Either it's 1 vote or 100 votes it is the same. The law of the land from tonight on is that May is obliged to ask for an extension and the length of such extension is up for parliament to decide. With the same procedure EP elections are easy to pass next week, and become the law of the land.
right but it's not likely that a May-Corbyn outline deal will come out. Corbyn is trapped and will have to back a 2nd referendum or risk turning half of his voters and MPs away. It will inevitably come to parliament to vote, because it is impossible for him to make such a choice and then hope to win any election. It's not only the Tory party who host extremists and opposed political views also Labour. You can't have only two parties represent all conservatives and all leftists. When push came to shove May had finally to abandon the extreme right wingers and now it's Corbyn's time to make his decision. Thats why yesterday was the only smart political move May has ever done in her office.
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...s-secretly-run-by-staff-of-lynton-crosby-firm Loby firm cooperating with Boris Johnson is running fake grassroot campaigns to pressure MPs to vote for hard Brexit. 1 million spent in the last year. After breaking the laws in the referendum the leave campaigns are revealed to run more and more scams.
Fake? LOL. Your characterization of his actions is of course completely absurd. His lobbying activites are entirely appropriate and I am pleased to hear about them. Thank you for sharing about that.
horrible economic figures/guidance out of germany and italy today. they absolutely have to keep GB in the club to help stretch out the fall
Thank you for your thoughtful input. So many of the comments in this thread seem to lack any appreciable cognitive aspect to them. If it was up to just Germany and Italy, I suspect the would have negotiated a better, acceptable deal This is certainly the rational thing to do and it is what should have happened. But this process is getting very late and it will not be up to these two countries what happens now.
As expected, the talks between Theresa May and Jeremy were just pointless political posturing and have apparently gone literally nowhere. So for all of those people who were in full meltdown mode over the very idea of these two sitting in the same room together, it was much ado about nothing. Theresa May and Jeremy Corbyn remain far apart on Brexit after over two hours of talks for a ‘national unity’ deal The PM enraged Tory Brexiteers by inviting the Labour leader into her Commons office yesterday afternoon in a bid to thrash out a compromise plan that a majority of MPs could pass. The duo have just four days to come up with a softer Brexit agreeement, in a breakneck timetable ahead of an emergency EU summit next week. Both sides said the talks were “constructive”, and set up negotiating teams for technical talks all day today. But Mr Corbyn revealed afterwards that no progress had been made in bridging the jumbo gap between them, and neither would reveal their red lines to each other. The Labour leader said: “There hasn’t been as much change as I expected. “There was no deal offered. There was no deal offered by us either. We just discussed where we are at. She reiterated where she is at at the present time. So red lines in the future didn’t come up.”
Every region of England and Wales is happy to leave with no deal, while London and Scotland want to remain. Every region of England and Wales happy to leave the EU without a deal (except London) Every English and Welsh region outside the M25 is happy to leave the European Union without a deal if no agreement can be reached by the end of next week. The study by YouGov asked voters “if Britain has not agreed a deal by April 12th, what do you think should happen?”. The research found that only people living in London did not want to leave without a deal. In London 48 per cent of voters agreed that “Britain should withdraw our application to leave and remain in the EU” against 26pc who backed leaving without a deal. The picture was reversed outside London however. In the rest of the South of England 44pc were in favour of no-deal against 34pc who wanted to revoke the decision to leave. In the Midlands and Wales the proportion in favour of no-deal was 46pc – 31pc, and 41pc – 34pc in the North of England. The proportions mirrored London in Scotland with just 28pc in favour of no-deal against 47pc who wanted to stay in the EU.
Fake news. Every region isnt happy to leave with no deal, where was the option for leaving with deal? Nowhere. Typical misinformative propaganda. But what to expect by someone who just said that he supports criminals who break election laws?
