Meanwhile, some Labour MP's are demanding that Jeremy Corbyn sack the Labour Party Chair for refusing to back a second referendum. It is a position shared by a substantial number of Labour MP's. MPs demand Jeremy Corbyn sack Labour Party chair after he refuses to back second referendum on Brexit Labour descended into open civil war after party chairman Ian Lavery refused to resign following his decision to defy the whip and abstain on backing a bid for a second referendum. The Labour leadership had issued a three-line whip on Monday calling on all its MPs to vote in favour of backbencher Peter Kyle’s motion to hold a confirmatory vote on any agreed Brexit deal. The bid was defeated by 12 votes after Mr Lavery abstained along with fellow Shadow Cabinet member Jon Trickett. In total, 40 Labour MPs either voted against or abstained on the alternative Brexit option to demand another referendum, including eight junior shadow ministers. It is the second time in a week that Mr Lavery has ignored the party whip to abstain on the motion to put a withdrawal agreement to the public in a confirmatory vote. So 40 members of the Labour party are refusing to back a second referendum. But this is what they need to vote for if they want an extension beyond May 22, 2019 - and also a commitment to participate in the May 23-26, 2019 EU Parliamentary elections. If even the Labour party will not back this plan, then it is not going to happen.
There will be no more indicative votes. For the first time in 26 years, Speaker Bercow cast his vote to break a tie and voted no. Bercow uses casting vote after first Commons tie in 26 years to block backbench indicative votes - live news So, no more indicative votes. Presumably no more votes on the deal. Now what? Nine days to go. Tick tock.
So basically we're down to 3 options: 1. May forces her deal through 2. May-Corbyn agree to a softer Brexit and get it passed next week. EU meets on April 10th and agrees and UK is out by May 22nd. 3. Neither happens and May gets a long extension and everything is on the table again. Note that No-Deal is still not an option.
Except that no deal is the law of the land and it is what will happen unless the UK Parliament passes something to displace it, which needs to be one of the following three alternatives. 1. Pass Theresa May's deal (Already voted down three times and Speaker Bercow says it will not be voted on again) 2. Pass a motion for a second referendum (Already voted down twice in indicative votes and Speaker Bercow says there will be no more of those) 3. Revoke Article 50 (Already voted down once during indicative votes and the opposition is not even supporting this to be proposed again) All the rest of it is political posturing.
No, as usual, you just don't know anything about anything. There are many more options than that. For example, they can simply pass an extension - as they did for April 12th. The EU agrees and you have an extension. Or more likely, it happens in the reverse order. On April 10th, the EU and May come to terms on an extension, and on April 11th, Parliament agrees.
The meeting between May and Corbyn is over and apparently amounted to nothing. They agreed to have their 'teams' explore the scope for future agreement. LOL. Jeremy Corbyn emerges from 2 hour Brexit crisis meeting with May - 'It went VERY WELL' It is understood the leader of the opposition said the two-hour discussion had gone “very well” with a further cross-party talks scheduled. Labour has confirmed the talks were “constructive” and the two parties have “agreed a programme of work”. A Labour spokesman said: “We have had constructive exploratory discussions about how to break the Brexit deadlock. “We have agreed a programme of work between our teams to explore the scope for agreement.” Just as expected. It was just more political posturing.
Next meeting will be to setup and place for the third meeting, which will be needed to setup a time for the fourth meeting. LOL
Yeah this is the regular bureaucratic meeting jamboree. This does not alter the current trajectory of Brexit, which is currently on autopilot headed towards Brexit with No Deal on April 12, 2019.
Brexit delay legislation passed The third reading on motion seeking Brexit delay has been passed by a majority of one vote YES: 313 NO: 312 This was done after an unusually short debate period and there seems to be some level of resentment in the UK Parliament to the way it was handled. Nevertheless, there is no problem in Theresa May taking this request to next Wednesday's EU emergency summit, as it will have neither a good reason for requesting it, or the UK Parliament's commitment to participating in the May 23-26, 2019 EU Parliamentary elections, which is required for the UK to stay past May 22, 2019.
May is now forced by law to ask for an extension. Her power has been stripped away. Goodbye No deal Brexit. The Brexemists are crying tears LMAO
No more votes by parliament because they are not needed. When Corbyn and May fail to come to terms this procedure will be continued, initiated by them. That's what she said. And it looks like at least she has dropped some of her red lines on free movement.
So you think the EU will approve an extension, without approval of the deal, without approval of a second referendum and without a commitment to participate in the May 23-26, 2019 EU Parliamentary elections? They have not approved an actual purpose for which they are making this request. Other than just delaying in order to delay some more.
Alrighty then. Keep us posted on any actual plan that comes out of those discussions, will you please?
Not surprisingly, it wasn't one of the only 3 alternatives you could ever envision. You are so very bad at this.
To just ask for a further delay, with no reason, justification, or preparation, at all whatsoever? You are correct. I still do not think that this is going to feed the proverbial bulldog.
they will participate in eu elections so no problem. The numbers are clear. Easy majority to avoid no deal and as shown today parliament will make May its puppet. She will have to obey the laws of the country. Now the Cooper bill has to pass through the House of Dinosaurs and then it will be official. No matter how much Francois is crying it will not be delayed.
May has much more of an excuse than last time : Hey I just started now doing what any normal leader would do , finding cross party consensus and obeying the will of the parliament. Even if no new political declaration has passed by 10 april, that's good enough.
oh, Don't feel so bad if you can't understand. Keep reading up and after some long time you will be able to make sense of it. Good luck!
Well of course *you* don't. You've been wrong about everything so far, and you'll be wrong again. And round and round you'll go, never realizing just how little of this you understand.
