James Harden passes Tracy McGrady on all-time scoring list

What ridiculous is that harden wouldve rode b**** at OKC for 11 million non-max dollars more.

We locked him in with 84 million.

Its like he lives off disrespect and turns it into a nastier game.

 

Carried them straight out of the playoffs by the end of the first round every year.

And when he finally sits, Yao and Artest finally carry the Rockets to the second round.

 

I disagree,

He will always be in the conversation involving the biggest losers NBA has ever produced.

This dude couldn't get out of first round in 8 tries.

Count it.

8!

That's just 92 shy of a 100!

 

Why is there even a poll? Silly.

I've said it here before, I was unhappy with trading Francis and Mobley for T-Mac. My first impression of T-Mac was of him sitting on the bench in Toronto as a rookie pouting from lack of PT. Sure, we had some good times, but I think the Francis/Yao combo had much better chemistry and we might have won it all had they continued to play together.

Harden by...whats the circumference of the Earth? That many miles.

 

u trippin...T-Mac was way better than Francis, it wasn’t even close

Francis was pretty much done like 2 years after the trade...there’s no way we would’ve ever won it all with Francis

T-Mac and Yao has great chemistry...there were just too many injuries and a severe lack of talent...T-Mac was out there trying to carry a geriatric squad

replace Ryan Bowen and Scott Padget with actual NBA players and maybe that’s enough to beat the Mavs in 05 and give the Suns a good series

I don’t blame T-Mac for the 07 or 08 playoffs either...07 it was him, Yao, Rafer and Battier who were decent, and then everyone else playing like huge scrubs...08 we had no chance

 

In the legit losses to Utah, Tmac carried the load but they got the best of Yao by fronting him and looking slow. I guess Tmac or Rafer should’ve practiced high lob entry passes but that never worked out,

I hated those years because everyone knew Yao was done after the second foot fracture but we carried on more years.

 

Prime TMac was a great exciting player, but he ain't even CLOSE to Harden in the mental and leadership aspects of the game. Guy had all the talent in the world but the biggest loser mentality. He's one of those old bitter dudes that wants to hate on the younger generation for what he never accomplished, it's very apparent when he talks basketball.

 

Imagine if he was healthy they might’ve won it all

T-Mac was the second best player to Kobe in the league period.

 

If he was healthy, he would have dragged us out of playoffs in the first round, like he did the other 8 times.

 

That's a really biased statement. Tmac performed well as a Rocket in the playoffs, in fact his playoffs points per game is the highest among any Rocket players in the history. The year(08-09 season) Yao carried us to the second round is the only year with Tmac and Yao as our stars when we had deep rotations, Brooks, Lowry, Scola, Landry, Wafer are all quality players. Had we traded Tmac for Billups and Prince(that's what Pistons offered), we would be the favorite to win it all that year, and Yao's career probably wouldn't ended that early.

 

Slow down with the title talk when it comes to Tmac. How about getting out of first round first? lol

I mean seriously, for all the hype about his talent and all, this guy couldnt get his team out of first round in 8 tries. We are not talking about title. FIRST ROUND!! 8 TRIES!!

One of the biggest reason was that the guy was mentally weak.

People that have watched him in game 7 against the Mavs will know that. The guy came out jacking weak outside jumpers all game and melted under pressure.

Yeah he got his numbers against the Jazz but he was horribly inefficient the entire series. Averaged less than 40 ppg and was bullied in the series against smaller players.

Same guy that went up 3-1 against the Pistons, talked trash, and then was booted.

This guy has a history of going up in the series and then crumbling under pressure.

He had the same teammates when he went up vs when he lost the series. The sad reality is that this guy was a horrendous closer and history backs it up.

 

Tmac not being able to get out of the first round is really a lazy argument without putting much context into it.

He was 20 years old when he lost his first playoff series and wasn't the no.1 option in the team, yet he outplay the best player in his team(Vince Carter really sucked in that series). So that's not on him.

In his Orlando years, Tmac was still very young and had literally zero help. The second best player in that team is Darrell Armstrong, this is really pathetic. In the three series he played as a Magic, he averaged TWENTY more points per game than the second best scorer in the team.

In his Houston years, the Rockets always had only 4-5 NBA level players(except for the last two years when he and Yao got injured in the playoffs), and the Western conference is very tough. Yes, he didn't have the game of his life in G7 2005, but it was our defense that melt down, not him. He was terrible at clutch time in 2007, but we lost because we couldn't secure a Rebound. 2008, he played with a severe injury, with the second best(or the best) player out due to injury, even the third best player was out for the first two games, yet he still carried us for two impressive wins.

Yes, he is not mentally as tough as Michael Jordan, but he is not mentally weak either. I really don't understand why Tmac is hated so much by the clutchfans, in China, we love him even more than Yao because of his amazing performance as a Rocket. He really gave his heart and soul to the team in 2008, insisted on playing with a bad injury when we really had very little chance to win given Yao was already gone, which essentially ended his career as a superstar. How can you not respect a player like that?

 

Tracy can say he is the only guy with a female moniker to make multiple Allstar appearances.

 

Okay...

 

T-Mac was fine until the 08-09 season happened...before that season, I loved T-Mac and felt sorry for him because we surrounded him with a lot of garbage

T-Mac’s problem was his work ethic...he didn’t work to improve his body or his game enough...every single year he got fatter and his game got worse

it got to the point that the man had regressed to being a 68% free throw shooter for the 07-08 season

How does that happen?

he was horribly inefficient...10-32, 8-25, 9-27 type games happened way too frequently for him

now he’s on national TV throwing shots at Harden consistently...it must be due to envy that Harden is doing what he couldn’t in a Rockets jersey

 

People need to let go of their hate for T-mac. The Toronto game was one game in a career.

That said, I wonder who are the 6 people who think T-mac is better than Harden lol

 

I was vote number 7. To just annoy people like Zboy and Tinman that have sooo much penis envy for Jeremey Lin and Tmac it's comical.

 

I never disliked McGrady and still don’t now, but I don’t like that he constantly speaks out against Harden. McGrady was a smooth, inefficient player who didn’t get his teams passed the first round despite having surreal talent. A lot of it is because of his physiology, I really believe that. He was great, hall of fame worthy. Harden is a couple of notches up as a performer. Houston was certainly better for having McGady; I just wish that he acknowledged Harden’s accomplishments in a way that’s befitting of Harden’s performance over the last 4 years or so.

 

McGrady was mostly limited by his chucking and soft play.

 

Don’t worry, there’s only 2 people out there who think Francis is better than TMac.