Plastic can be recycled you fake liberal. If you care so much about the environment... stop using a car unless it is carbon neutral. Start using a solar system at home. Make real changes. Not these fake starbucks pr changes. Oh and stop supporting unmitigated immigration to the first world because they will create more ocean waste with their change in lifestyle.
I have a solar system. Let me know when you can out liberal me on the environment and then we will talk.
Congrats on your solar system. Did you name it all by yourself? I don't have a car, my electricity is nuclear, the food I eat is locally sourced, I recycle, and I take the subway. BOOM!
You can't even define what liberal principles are. I challenge you to actually define your liberal principles.
That's you near the top left and me at the bottom... thus our frequent disagreements. You are a more linear thinker in terms of left and right, without actual context in the real world. You see a centrist and assume all to the right of you are conservatives.
Ah yes, the enlightened centrist that does nothing but go to bat for conservatives and Trump. I really don't care if people like you think I'm "Lunatic Fringe" because you're so far gone to the right that Ronald Reagan would be lunatic fringe.
No, I think you are a conservative because in nearly every thread here that's who you side with. Nearly every one. Just because you think teachers should get paid more doesn't make you a 'Centrist' or just because you are for equal rights doesn't make you centrist, not when you side with the right 90% of the time. I'm not saying anything is wrong with that, just be honest about it. Centrism is supremely overrated too because most of the people that claim to be centrist are dishonest.
God damn man take a vacation if you are this bothered. I am actually worried about your mental health, and not in a joking way to insult you or something. Find someone who will listen and get that burden off your chest son. I say this out of love from one Cf member to another, politics aside.
I am fighting to conserve liberal values from far left authoritarian moralists. So yeah I am "conservative" in a sense.
I don't really think it is dishonesty. The definitions appear to be constantly evolving so one might consider oneself to be a centrist while some others would view that individual to be more right leaning and others would view that same individual to be left leaning.