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Trump Budget to Defund Special Olympics

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Carl Herrera, Mar 26, 2019.

  1. NewRoxFan

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    Wow... devos outright lies afterwards...

     
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    LOL.. "saws off branch"

     
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    I think on a larger macro level teachers make what their skill set brings comparing them to all jobs in this country.

    You may argue that there is government driven demand for them but thats a different topic.

    I think math and science teachers should make more given what they can make doing other things. Some of those teachers have educations that could push them well into six figures but for the most part an undergraduate degree will bring you what teachers make.

    They actually make a little more than the average of fpur year degrees comparing them all at year one. 53k in hisd comared to 50k for everyone
     
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    Except teaching requires some post-graduate course work if not a degree. That and continued postgraduate professional development makes them underpaid.
     
  5. pgabriel

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    What do you mean by professional development? Who pays for that?
     
  6. NewRoxFan

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    Good % of time the teacher does out of pocket. At least my wife does.
     
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    It depends on which professional development and the school's budget. It is usually a combination of the teacher, school, and district itself.
     
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    What exactly do you think a teacher's skill set is?

    You seem to think that anybody with a 4 year degree can teach.

    do you know what pay raises they get year to year or their max pay?
     
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    better pay... better teachers. There is a reason education is getting worse. No one worth a damn will stay in education usually.
     
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    They are way behind where they should be.
     
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    Teaching isnt a special skill . There are good and bad teachers and some are better than others.

    Its about communication and knowledge of what you're teaching

    One thing to consider when discussing teacher pay is its government funded. Teachers cant go out and increase the value of their organization bringing in more money.

    There are limitations that have to be accepted with your choice of profession. Considering there isn't a shortage the pay is apparently satisfactory

    Some teachers have degrees that could pull more income but some have degrees that wouldn't get them close to $50k in the private sector
     
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    "Inflation has eroded most of teachers'salary increases: Over the past decade, the average classroom teacher salary has increased 15.2% but after adjusting for inflation, the average salary has actually decreased by $1,823 or 3.0%" That is just in the last decade.

    http://www.nea.org/home/12661.htm
     
  13. Air Langhi

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    Teacher's don't make a lot because most people in the country don't really care about education. The rich people either live where schools are good are send their kids to private schools.
     
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    Anything you said after this is irrelevant. If you believe this to be true, then you have no clue what it takes.
     
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    Teaching is very special skill , everybody does not learn the same and you have to be able to teach at their levels.

    You also have to be able to problem solve at a high level both academically and emotionally you have to have to almost be a psychologist and social worker rolled into one.

    You have no idea what teachers actual actually responsibilities are or the pressures they have from the students, parents and administration.

    Gone are the days of handing out worksheets and answering questions from a book.

    It takes a special skill not to snap on some of the students and parents on a daily basis.
     
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    There are 3.2 million public school teachers in this country alone
     
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    There are 50.7 million students in public school in the US. What's your point?

    Just because there's that many teachers doesn't mean it doesn't take a specialized skill to do the job properly.
     
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    Everyone can argue there are unique challenges and therefore skills that come with their profession.

    Im not trying to disparage what they do but teaching is a learned profession like most
     
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    On the numbers i do think teachers are stretched thin by overcrowded classrooms. If more money goes to schools the money for salaries should be spent on more teachers
     
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    Public schools are pure public good. Its not top of the list of government responsibility.

    I agree that people dont respect education in this country but a fair thing we could look at is what teachers make in other industrialized countries.

    In 2018 public school teacher pay in England was $33k (28,000 euros), substantially less than America.

    In Japan its the equivalent of $31k

    Pretty sure both countries have higher costs of living
     

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