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Robert Mueller, Former F.B.I. Director, Is Named Special Counsel for Russia Investigation

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  1. robbie380

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    Ay dios mio! Mi amigo tienes que tomar un descanso y relajarte un poco....

    Y no tomé ESL pero estoy intentando aprender español como una idioma segunda.

    Muchos abrazos!
     
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    It says a lot about people like you that because a poltical figure you worship wasn’t convicted of a crime, you feel like you have a license to just randomly talk crap to and try to bully any perceived critic of your beloved leader you live vicarious through. He’s your version of Tyler Durden in your mind. Your fantasy of how you wouid turn your grievances against everyone you blame in life your problems. Trump is free so you are free.

    Nice insult on the blood pressure there. It makes it easier to do what you trolls get off on online if you imagine the other person on the other end of the internet to be someone lower than you so you can feel better about your life.

    You are pathetic. Get a life. Stop trolling to satisfy your own insecurities. I’m going to keep following this story and will keep posting if the mods allow it. You can feel free to ignore me if I upset your fantasy. If you continue to try to bully online we all know then you are a confirmed sad little troll.
     
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    Shouldn't you be happy your president, who is your leader, wasn't convicted of a crime after a two-year thorough investigation? You should relax dobby.
     
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    Wow, so you are serious about that question? Perhaps I have overestimated you? I do not think this question even deserves a serious answer but I will give you one anyway. Literally none of the serious parts of the dossier have been proven despite being investigated for over two years. How do we know this? Donald J Trump is still President. Mueller has completed his investigation and has exonerated Trump. Had any of the serious parts of the dossier been proven accurate, Trump would either have to resign or be impeached.

    You are free to keep living in a bubble believing whatever you want. Nobody can force you to accept reality.
     
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    I think April is too long. I see no reason why he cannot get it released within a few weeks.
     
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    I do not use ignore except for trolls and I do not consider you a troll. You are free to keep believing whatever you want no matter if fits reality or not. Heck, some people believe the moon landing was a hoax while others believe in bigfoot and aliens. Please carry on.
     
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    You can’t see it can you? I’m gonna stop for your sake, breeeeathe!
     
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    So you weren't able to name one thing that was proven false? We know that parts of the dossier have been proven too. If you guys are going to get riled up because the dossier sparked an investigation and continue to call it the falsified dossier, then you'll need to tell me what parts have been proven false. You haven't been able to that.

    I'll repeat again. A dossier is a collection of rumors. It is documenting that these are things are intel are hearing people talk about. A dossier doesn't claim that the things are proven to be true. Like rumors, some turn out to be true and some turn out to be false. Others are mostly true with one or two details wrong. They are presented not to take action against the things stated in a dossier but to investigate.

    That's what correctly happened and sure enough, some of the things did, in fact, turn out to be true. I would imagine that some things turned out to be false as well. So far you haven't named one of them.

    Mueller hasn't exonerated Trump. You haven't read the investigation. We do know that there isn't enough to prosecute crimes of defrauding the United States which is a good thing. But that isn't exoneration.

    This investigation showed Trump and his team lied over and over, there were members of his cabinet who were agents for foreign governments and they lied about it. Trump has filled the government with criminally corrupt people, and you somehow see this as a victory? Sorry, but that's pathetic.
     
  11. pgabriel

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    Mueller's summary does say there was no collusion
     
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    technically it says they can't prove/find collusion. The Dems are latching on to this to say 'Trump did collude, Mueller just cant find proof'.

    As if you can actually prove somebody isn't colluding with someone else :rolleyes:

    Prove Obama didn't collude with Russia. Prove Hillary didn't. its stupid.
     
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    Wow, such ignorance. I see no need to argue with someone devoid of reality. Enjoy living in your echo chamber.
     
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    Actually, the wording was:

    Then in a footnote Barr explained that Mueller had defined “coordination” as an “agreement—tacit or express—between the Trump campaign and the Russian government on election interference.”

    Noteworthy that Barr's summary or Mueller's quote didn't say they was no evidence but instead the investigation did not establish that they conspired or coordinated. Which seems to suggest there was evidence, but not sufficient to establish that to a degree to bring charges.

    I don't recall if there was any wording that the DOJ policy to not indict a sitting president was mentioned or not and whether that effected the conclusions. Of course, the release of the final report, perhaps coupled with testimony will provide more details. Hopefully.
     
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    The summary says that using the legal burden of reasonable doubt, Trump won’t be indicted on collusion.
     
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    No, there’s a difference between not finding evidence and not proving collusion in court.

    Cleary you can prove collusion but it’s very hard to establish intent. The Dems are wanting to get to the report to see what evidence Mueller has regarding collusion and obstructionism. While it does legally exonerate Trump, will find behavior that is fitting for the US president?
     
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    first trump calls for Schiff to resign:



    So the six lapdogs, I mean republicans on the House Intelligence follow orders and demand Schiff's resignation...



    Schiff's response...



     
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    I kindly and respectfully asked for you to dispell me of my ignorance. I asked for you to name the parts of the dossier which have not been verified. You did not name a single one.

    The parts that have been verified have been listed on this bbs more than once and addendums were also added when new parts of the dossier ended up being verified. So it is only fair for you to answer which parts have been shown to be false. You claim I'm ignorant, and I am sincerely asking you to dispell that ignorance.

    If you are going to continue to label the dossier was worthless and false, then you ought to be able to show why it is. You haven't.

    Since your belief that it is false and that is a large part of the formation of your discussion, I understand why you might want to run away from this discussion with me if you are not able to list the parts that were demonstrably false. But if you can't do that, then the list you could do is understand why not everyone would buy into your way of seeing things.
     
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    NYT desperate to keep hope alive.

    You should know, @biff17 , I don't really care whether the report is 300 pages or 700 pages. I don't think that much matters.

    Democrats, who like all other lawmakers have not seen the report, have all but accused Mr. Barr of covering up damaging information it contains. They have specifically focused on an apparent difference between the views of Mr. Barr and Mr. Mueller on whether Mr. Trump obstructed justice. Democrats have demanded that the attorney general make the full report and evidence public.
     
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