Robert Mueller, Former F.B.I. Director, Is Named Special Counsel for Russia Investigation

This should be fun....

 

You suggest he is lying? You do realize he would lose his head if he lied on this? Keep pushing your conspiracy theory.

 

Accuses poster of using wingnut loaded words... uses "wingnut" which is a common leftist loaded word for opposition.

 

According to Barr's summary he was completely exonerated on "collusion" with Russia. Where you are confused, likely due to still living in the echo chamber, is the obstruction part where Barr states Mueller basically punted on making a call.

From the Barr summary in regards to collusion:

 

No one cares what a Trump lackey thinks.

 

Barr quoted the statement below from the actual Mueller report:

I guess you can hold onto false hope a bit longer. I know it is hard not to after living in the echo chamber every day building up that Mueller was going to take down Trump for the last almost two years. Sooner or later you will have to accept reality. The Mueller report will eventually be released.

 

Interesting!

 

Reason essay that argues Trump's hotheadedness saved him from the obstruction charges. I agree with the assessment that asking Russia to find Hillary Clinton's emails was a joke and not the kind of thing you'd say if you were actually colluding with a foreign power.

Donald Trump says what he thinks. Depending on your perspective, this quality is either refreshing or reckless. But it proved helpful in fending off charges that Trump obstructed justice or conspired with Russians to violate federal law.

Obstruction and conspiracy are supposed to happen in the shadows. Yet as Attorney General William Barr noted on Sunday in his summary of Special Counsel Robert Mueller's report on Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election, many of the actions that Trump's critics have cited as evidence of his criminality happened in broad daylight.

While running for president against Hillary Clinton in July 2016, for example, Trump hoped aloud that Russian hackers would locate emails from the private server she used as secretary of state. "Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing," Trump said at a press conference.

That comment can plausibly be described as a joke or a rhetorical stunt. But it is not the sort of thing a rational person would say if he were actually conspiring with Russian agents to influence the presidential election, whether through hacking or through online propaganda disguised as the political speech of Americans.

You might speculate that Trump is just really bad at conspiracy, or that he is clever enough to understand that publicly inviting Russian hacking would make him look innocent. But after two years of investigation, according to Barr's summary, "the Special Counsel did not find that the Trump campaign, or anyone associated with it, conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in these efforts, despite multiple offers from Russian-affiliated individuals to assist the Trump campaign."
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more at the link:
https://reason.com/archives/2019/03/27/trumps-hotheadedness-was-his-saving-vice

 

There is no doubt Trump's mouth(and tweets) were used against him to fan the flames throughout this investigation. Sometimes it is better to just shut up yet Trump does not seem to have that ability.

 

agreed. but in this particular case, his being a loudmouth is probably what saved him . . . or as they say on the streets, "exonerated" him

 

Its not illegal to do business with Russians. Their state owned companies do business right here in this country

 

It wasn't just the things he tweeted and said. It was the continual stream of lies. How many different versions did we get about the trump tower meeting? In fact, why so many lies over all about meetings that happened between trump's people and russians? Why did kushner needs so many rewrites of forms? If they didn't think the meetings were wrong... why so many lies about them (both in hiding the meetings, then later lies about them)?

And what happens next? If it becomes acceptable to act this way now... what will we allow next?

 

I would not go that far. Had he not been so loud mouthed they would not even be able to claim he obstructed. Why in the world would anyone obstruct against a crime they did not commit. He was extra boisterous stating his innocence.

During the Salem witch trials I am sure that anyone who was accused of being a witch would try to deflect from anything that might be used against them as evidence. That does not excuse the lies he told but I think it explains them. In the end the meetings meant nothing and there was no need to lie about them.

 

Its 2019 and people are still citing CNN. Wow.

 

Very true. They have ZERO credibility at this point.

 

Brennan is a VERY nervous man right now.

 

Well, I guess since 2016 was ok...