Russell Westbrook tells fan: "I'll f*ck you up, you and your wife"

There you go making assumptions again. You assume that the hatred for Russell Westbrook is so deep that we are willing to put aside our morality and look the other way if he actually said something racist. I'm an immigrant myself and I come from a war torn country. So, I know a thing or two about discrimination. Which is why I'm not taking that comment very seriously. It could have meant anything. Slow news week.

 

yeah you choose to ignore everything because that's what you're obviously going to do anyway but your true colors is definitely not a compliment

whether its because you live in a box and know nothing outside of it and what goes on in other parts of the world. whether you've never been exposed to that kind of environment. or whether you're just that naive. its pretty telling how your logic is this: oh my god, a utah fan would never say anything racist approach as if its some outrageous idea. And you spinning into your westbrook is wrong based solely on your hate for him.

 

assumptions on your part not really. Westbrick is a cry baby, always has been. Is a pretty clear indication of what your agenda is from the beginning

In what world does “get on your knees like you used to” equal “u suck”. this is the kind of stuff that raises the true colors flag. going back to whether you're just that naive etc.

 

stop being naive and get out of your delusional bubble where “get on your knees like you used to” equals “u suck”...dumbest thing I’ve seen today...wake up

 

"Good guy", "bad guy" is just a label. Russ isn't a good/bad guy because of what happened here. But he isn't a saint, that's for sure.

I'm glad he made this into an issue because it brought awareness to punishing hateful fans who think athletes are just zoo animals for their amusement.

 

You can't prove that it wasn't a racist comment either. I mean he didn't technically come out and say Get down on your knees boy like your ancestors used to or I'm gonna get the whip, but come on...I'm Chinese American and that's what I thought when I first heard it. If I was Russel Westbrook, I would have punched him, his wife and his momma.

 

Yeah, like I said, I'm well travelled and come from a war torn country with various different religions and ethnic groups. My point is, you can't prove anything. You can label me all you want but you still can't prove anything. Making assumptions like this is dangerous because you are making up rules about what kind of language people can and cannot use about certain people. You're also saying that it's ok to threaten someone with physical violence if they don't follow those rules.

 

I dont really care if I can't prove anything. You could very well be all of those things. You show everyone who you are with your posts and that's what we go by. All of those things doesn't just give you some fake exemption from being questioned based on your actual posts.

you're obviously making it a priority to spin it against wb. we all see that.

 

Did he say he was going to get a whip or did you use your imagination to complete his sentence?

 

so do we have evidence that the fan did said those things Russ accused of him saying?? If not, why's everyone just taking Westbrook's word for it? Like he can't fabricate that bs up??

 

This is a bad line of reasoning. I'm usually the one playing the role you're playing here, waiting for more facts. However, his social media history is completely indefensible, hyperbolic, and removed all doubt about his mindset. The posts he made, quoted, and touted were clearly racist ("*****", "paid monkey", "go back where you came from", "ive never seen a black Jazz fan"), and directed at Westbrook. To assume that what he said now wasn't racist towards Westbrook because we (as a third party) can't prove it - is flawed. If the guy didn't want to be banned, he didn't need to keep poking the bear. Why does he deserve any sympathy? No one forced him to cause this situation. He could have just been a normal fan and shut the hell up.

We also now know that whatever the guy said (including anything beyond the line Westbrook quoted) was corroborated by witnesses sitting nearby - enough that the home team took the very rare step of banning one of their own fans from their arena.

There have been tons of fan-athlete interactions and they don't usually lead to something like this. We can interpret that as it was undeserved, or that it was bad enough to stand out. Take your pick.

Here, there are some Utah fans trying everything they can to deflect blame. Every rhetorical trick in the book. It's embarrassing.
https://www.cougarboard.com/board/message.html?id=21396818

The mindset these stupid BYU fans are showing (and I say this as a BYU alum) is exactly why we have Flat Earthers, Birthers, and any other kind of truthers. At some point, the facts just have enough weight to tip the scales. And since Keisel wants to make a lawsuit out of this (and deleted his history), I guess we'll also see this in an actual court of law instead of just the court of public opinion.

 

when you’re making comments like this

it’s clear u just live in your own little world...go say that phrase to somebody on the court and see if u don’t get confronted, slapped, punched, etc...let’s see if they buy the BS of u only saying that they suck

 

We have to remember that whether or not that idiot's comment was offensive to US is irrevelant. The fact that said idiot made that comment in the first place is the issue and I think some of us are concerningly implying that:

1. We hate Russ so much that it doesn't matter what insults--racially-driven, homophobic, both or not--like the one used here doesn't matter.
2. Our own tolerance level for outlandish remarks (specifically ones that were not directed towards us) somehow supercedes Westbrook's (specifically this one that was directed towards him).

If the NBA and the Utah Jazz franchise are both behind Westbrook (and that is based on the fact that the idiot is banned from the arena) then I would say that whatever the idiot said was found to be, in fact, offensive.

When you're using an argument of "yea well he should have thicker skin because [insert personal drama]" you're no longer trying to identify with what Russ might have been going through; you're just trying to belittle the situation and make it into a pissing contest.

 

What's your point? If I see a man running out of a house holding a bloody knife, do I have to imagine that he just stabbed/possibly killed someone? If I walk into a bathroom and it smells like $hit, do I have to imagine that someone just took a dump?

 

yeah a multimillionaire who is in one of the worst fan base arenas in the world just upped and decided to make a fuss about a random fan in the stands. he needs this to just better himself in all aspects of his life

some of you really need to expose yourself to things outside of your comfort zone

 

So if it didn't give me an exemption then why did you question me about it in the first place? If my name was Billy and I never left my small town in Alabama, you would hold it against me. The fact that Westbrook is black and the fan is white matters to you. So why doesn't my background help my argument? Is it because it doesn't benefit your argument?

 

lol, the mental gymnastics being used for the racist loser...

nah, the guy didn’t say any of those things, he got banned for no reason...the Jazz didn’t get statements from other fans in attendance, and based off this guy’s social media history, he is an upstanding dude who would never do anything like that

 

what? no exemption means you're by all means eligible to questioned. lol are you actually hearing yourself

if that's your background then that just goes back to my earlier post. whether its because you live in a box and know nothing outside of it and what goes on in other parts of the world. whether you've never been exposed to that kind of environment. or whether you're just that naive

 

We have seen actual footage of him threatening two fans, we have no footage of the fans saying anything. Under your logic, they are innocent and Westbrook is guilty.

 

No, that's your gross misunderstanding of my logic not mine.
And what your saying doesn't even make any sense.
Because if what you say were true, the Jazz organization already banned that fan for life (that's a fact).
Then wouldn't that mean the fan was guilty?