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Thousand bux a month or tax wealthy elite 70%

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Jump Ship, Mar 10, 2019.

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Which do you want?

  1. $1000 a month for everyone over 18 years old

    4 vote(s)
    18.2%
  2. Tax the wealthy 70% on every dollar over $10 million

    10 vote(s)
    45.5%
  3. Niether, I am republican and think walls are cool

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    36.4%
  1. Jump Ship

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    Dude, I’m not 16. This thread is not about disclosing your age and occupation. It’s about who you think the next president should be and why.
     
  2. Jump Ship

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    Making personal accusations with zero proof accomplishes nothing. You are distracting us from the discussion.

    So wait, you support Elizabeth Warren or are you another trump head?

    Right now i want AOC to come in and make these corps (both private and public) pay their taxes. If we cant get her then Yang or Warren both look good.
     
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    :eek:
     
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    is that the discussion? I don't really want any part of that to be honest with you
     
  5. Jump Ship

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    It’s the discussion because emtreme conservatives only want Trump and to say he’s doing ok is scary. Is hate, division, and anger really the only motivator for this group?

    They are extremists who try to control everyone with fear of the unkown and fear from anger and hate.
     
  6. biff17

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    do you not know that AOC is ineligible to run for president?

    And do you really think any president would have that kind of power?

    you say you are not 16 but you can't be much older.
     
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  8. Jump Ship

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    Os you already said you dont want to participate in any discussion not promoting trump so why are you here?

    You dont get it, if senile trump can be president at 72 why cant she at 30? If we dont get her we will settle for yang or warren, but she can run in the next election.
     
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    She can't run because of the constitution.

    I don't get it?

    You have to be trolling now.
     
  10. Os Trigonum

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    if you're 16 then it's Mr. Trigonum to you ;)
     
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  11. Jump Ship

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    She can run after, she is still an option. Until then Yang and Warren are more than capable of leading this nation.

    Uber conservatism in time where everything is changing will only lead to implosion. We need progressive thinking. We need everyone to pay their taxes so we can fund knowledge driven programs and create real possible solutions.

    Anti progress anti change anti solution
     
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    This is anti progress. If anything the 70 percent bracket will be raised over time. It will easily go to 15-25 million in the next 5-10 years after it passes. No way does it go down. This is an unwarranted fear.
     
  13. Jump Ship

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    In conclusion,

    The simplest anology is when you won the game in monopoly and every major industry is dominated by one company it is no longer capitalism instead a monopoly. Those who won the game refuse to shake things up. They would rather be known as titans of industry instead of monopolies.

    Everyone born after has to suffer because their ancestors got their ass kicked in a once capitalist driven society with plenty of opportunity. They are trying to hang on to what little they have because it is a scrap more than the next person or generation.

    The board is tilted and it wont be long before someone flips it over. Wealth redistribution and favoring knowledge driven programs are the only logical solutions to everyone being automated out over time.

    If capitalism does not value knowledge, only real dollars, it is destined to fail.
     
  14. biff17

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    Did you get all of your catchphrases in?

    Who exactly is advocating for uber conservatism?W

    So you only think Yang and Warren can hold the seat warm for AOC?

    Nobody comes in with this hot a take right of the bat, you have got to be trolling.
     
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    What I think you fail to understand is that a free, capitalistic market constantly destroys winners and makes new ones
    and lets money free flow. It is when it is government mandated funds and large corporatist situations that companies
    utilize the regulations of government to benefit themselves and freeze out competition.

    The ability for government to regulate and control is a power that is manipulated by those in power.

    The entire media industry was destroyed by Social Media, Google and others. Sears destroyed local stores, Walmart
    blew out Sears and now Amazon is taking on Walmart. In most competitive markets the consumers benefit from this
    shifting of power through decisions by consumers on where to shop, eat and spend.

    When it is government taxing, regulating and mandating it is different than free choice.

    People are so keen to let the government run it but what great government program over the last 50 years has worked?

    Have they won the war on drugs?
    The War on Poverty?
    Has healthcare proved better since government is not the largest spender on healthcare?
    Has housing become more affordable now that government institutions affect the housing market?
    Is education cheaper now that the government backs nearly all the student loans?

    They've all been failures while free markets have given us LOWER costs and BETTER goods in terms of
    food, automobiles, clothing and nearly all expenses.

    A free market allows wealth to flow freely.
     
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  16. biff17

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    I think you fail to understand a whole lot of things as well.
     
  17. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Ah....the irony

    "People making $10+ million/year pay ZERO taxes" (except for athletes)
     
  18. Astrodome

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    Jump Ship is like the AOC of the DnD. Young liberal upstart that deserves all of the attention.
     
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    But can Jump Ship dance?
     
  20. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    He certainly dances around directly answering simple question.
     
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