Actually, if I make a claim, and then you assert it's wrong it's on you to prove that. So, go ahead. What restrictions do private buyers have when purchasing from private sellers? I don't know of any. I can go the GRB some weekend and approach a private seller and ask him to purchase one of his guns and he could sell it to me right there for cash no questions asked. That seems to me to qualify as "essentially no restrictions."
PolitiFact Sheet: 3 things to know about the 'gun show loophole' By Amy Sherman on Thursday, January 7th, 2016 at 4:10 p.m. https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-...fact-sheet-3-things-know-about-gun-show-loop/
thanks for the clarification I sincerely doubt you would be able to find a single seller at an organized gun show to agree to sell you a firearm "right there for cash no questions asked." I will say that I have been to (on average) probably 5-6 gun shows a year, large and small, in probably a dozen different states, for the past thirty-five years, and I have never seen what you describe. Is it possible to find such a seller at an actual gun show? I suppose anything is possible. But I do not think it happens as easily or as often as you seem to think it does.
Politifact #1: 1. Federally licensed gun sellers are required to run background checks. But not all sellers are required to be licensed. Some of those unlicensed sellers sell at gun shows. If you are not a licensed FFL at a gun show and cannot run a background check yourself, then the gun show itself generally provides the service at a central location where the buyer brings the pertinent info to the FFL running that station; the background check gets called in and confirmed; and the buyer returns to the seller with the confirmation certification to complete the transaction. There is basically NOBODY walking out of an organized gun show with a firearm without proof of having passed a background check. The converse is also true: no one is walking INTO an organized gun show without that firearm first being checked and tagged at the door. It either leaves with the same person it entered the building with, unsold; or else it leaves the building with the new owner, a bill of sale, and proof of that new owner having passed that background check.
No one walks out of a gun show without a background check??? Private sellers at Louisiana’s gun shows do not check backgrounds http://www.louisianaweekly.com/private-sellers-at-louisianas-gun-shows-do-not-check-backgrounds/ Only 2 private gun buyers denied, 1 arrested, at 82 Va. gun shows during second year of voluntary background checks https://www.richmond.com/news/local...cle_0a22f1fe-dcda-5594-8be3-47cc06df19a5.html So... these loophole sales happen rarely? https://hcgv.org/?page_id=9
Lots of gun dealers are at shows and do perform background checks. I've been to maybe 2 gun shows in my life. The only gun I bought at a show was from a dealer and I did the background check. Private sellers are usually just a guy trying to sell a gun or 2. He could also list the gun on a local gun forum and meet someone up and sell it. That's why calling it the gun show loop hole is dumb. It is private sales. They could easily setup a booth at a gun show to run background checks for private sales. Maybe charge 5-10 bucks. I kind of like that idea.
again, my experience is that the kind of system described in the article about Virginia (where private sellers have the services of an FFL available to run background checks) is the norm--and that private sellers run those checks for their own protection. It's difficult to say what the situation is in Louisiana from the article, but if someone is checking a drivers license at least, then they are not selling to an out of state purchaser, not legally anyway--or to underage buyers. I'll agree that it sounds like the situation in Louisiana is different. I don't see any evidence for example that Lafitte Gun Shows provides or requires the FFL service for private sellers.
While those Federal background check services are available, they aren't required to be used by private sellers. The thing is, people selling goods want to sell their goods. They aren't necessarily looking out for the common good. We can hope that private sellers utilize the back ground check services when available and that they are otherwise discerning sellers but I think the reality is these folks are looking to make money and many don't really give a damn who they sell to. If you put up barriers, it makes it harder to sell your item. The fact that many private sellers aren't very discerning is evidenced by any number of studies/investigate news teams who go to gun shows and show how easy it is to purchase a gun with essentially no/little scrutiny. Just watch this:
I will say I appreciate the link in one of these articles to the study done by Matt Miller at Northeastern, which is available online at https://annals.org/aim/fullarticle/...out-background-checks-results-national-survey . It is interesting however to compare how big the "gun show" part of private sales compares with private transactions between friends, family, and acquaintances. The one figure the author provides lists a decreasing number of respondents over time saying they purchased a firearm from a private seller at a gun show, and in the most recent period of time for which they surveyed, none purchased a firearm at a gun show without a background check: I will take that as a small measure of evidence of what I was saying earlier: I believe the situation at gun shows has really tightened up in terms of private sellers conducting background checks (whether legally required to or not) over the past decade or so. But I will readily acknowledge that there might be certain locations (Louisiana for example) that continue to buck that overall trend. on that Viceland video . . . I had someone call B.S. on something I posted yesterday (someone else, not HTM). In this case I'd have to say I'm leery of that video and of the source, not sure I can call B.S. on it but pretty close I think. https://www.viceland.com/en_us
Calls for Stricter Gun Laws After Cambridge Man Illegally Purchased Ammo at Gun Show https://www.uptoboston.com/calls-fo...dge-man-illegally-purchased-ammo-at-gun-show/
interesting but it's unclear to me what this is supposed to show. I bought my first firearm as a Massachusetts resident back in 1983, and even then you needed a Firearms Identification Card (FID) signed by the local police chief to own or buy anything. So it is unclear to me how this individual was able to purchase 9mm pistol ammo in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts while being a Massachusetts resident. Also, my understanding is that Armslist is not a gun sales site, but rather a classified ads type of situation like craigslist or ebay where someone lists something to sell, a buyer contacts the seller directly, and the seller then has to comply with the laws. I may be wrong on that though.
Dick's Sporting Goods to pull firearms from more stores: https://www.wsj.com/articles/dicks-...from-125-stores-11552400663?mod=hp_lista_pos3
