Using past championship teams doesnt really make any sense as it is a different time. How many rings would the Bulls have of they traded Jordan because prior to him past championships have always been led by a big man? NBA champions come in all shapes and sizes there is no one model where they all fit.
You sound as if you're saying last year and other recent years are all 'a different time' and not relevant to today's game... I'm not referencing Red Auerback and the Celtics championships... now who's picking and chosing which facts are relevant? lol
Who says House is a development project? He was signed as a minimum veteran, just like GG was. If these players played well, they'd get a longer term contract. If they didn't, adios. Green played reasonably well and was kept. He wasn't a development project. He was retained to help our championship run last season. House played well enough for the Rockets to offer him a multi-year contract. He doesn't want it. That's his business decision. Why do you guys have to diss the guy just to defend Morey? Morey thought he was good enough to warrant a contract. What is being debated is whether the Rockets should convert him and have him help our run this season.
Yep we have had that rep yet we still get players like Faried, Rivers and House, like you said it's a business and players are going to go to teams that will put them in the most favorable position. you don't think that other players are looking at what the Rockets offered and think House is turning down a good deal considering his and their circumstances. What you and other posters don't seem to realize is that most teams would do the same concerning House just look at what the warriors and clippers did with similar players who had much more playing time. And non of those guys have gotten the contract that House was offered by the Rockets.
good point we don't know what House demands are they could just be unreasonable since he felt he had leverage with all of the injuries.
Green had years of proven NBA experience, Beverly and PJ had much longer sample sizes before they got more than minimum money. Green still is not guaranteed as much money as House was offered.
Huh? You said "all the past championships" that includes Red Auerbach and those Celtics championships. I'm not picking and choosing any facts I'm saying just because the Rockets shoot a lot of 3s which go against previous champ teams doesn't mean they can't win a ring. Rox got the first seed by shooting lots of 3s and likely would have beaten GSW if Cp3 didn't get injured and so what would have happened to your precendent then? Cp3 getting injured has no bearing on the style the Rox play if he gets injured shooting a 3 then he would also have gotten injured taking a mid range shot or w/e.
You are not even addressing my point. Did I say that the Rockets should offer him more than minimum money? I am not sure anybody is saying that at all. You keep creating strawmans so you can beat them up. I was responding to the poster that thought House would be a development project, which I showed that it was not true. He was a minimum contract journeyman who has played in the NBA for 3 seasons. Do you disagree? I was saying that sometimes these guys did get to help a team. We are talking about converting House's contract so that he can play for the Rockets now and the remaining of the season, including the playoffs. Do you even understand what the contending point is?
Yes I disagree he has played in less than 50 NBA games none of those other guys you mentioned are comparable to him. Now maybe the term developmental can be debated but the examples you named are not an accurate comparison to House. i would say the fact that he has yet to stick with an NBA team in 3 years would speak to the fact that he would still be considered a developmental player.Y those other guys also played for minimum guaranteed contracts which House is refusing to do.
Can somebody remind me what happens if we don't convert House for the rest of the year? Is he a FA this offseason anyway, or do we still have him under contract so we get another shot at calling him up next year? I'm just trying to confirm that there's an upside to leaving him where he is for now. Update: Per @jordnnnn's advice below, here's what @BimaThug says:
If that's how you read (picking words here and there), then I have nothing to say. Beverley and Tucker were not development projects. Neither is House. These guys are not rookies with skills to develop. They are players who have played professionally for several seasons. They just have not been able to be in situations where they could thrive. NBA teams that want to take a flyer on them typically give them minimum to see if there are any chances they can contribute. Most of them don't stick. But sometimes they do. There are more examples than just Beverley and Tucker. These two guys are just more familiar to Rockets fans.
Omg, this is becoming some drama. Has it ever been a situation when a NBA starter gets pulled due to contract reasons WAAAAY short of demanding a max contract? This is crazy. If both parties feel like they are the best fit for each other (YES!!!), working something out, at least short term.
There lies your problem, you think he is an nba starter. In reality he is a role player who played well for 20+ games and demanded the moon and the stars to agree to playing further. That's why he is not. We'll see if his gamble pays off this summer, that's the ultimate answer to his worth.
