Earlier in this thread, you said: "Says the guy who just equated the KKK with identity politics as if they have a point." So perhaps you weren't not saying I supported them, but that is still a horrifically bad misinterpretation of what I actually was saying. Nowhere did I say that the KKK was the same as identity group politics -- although, if you think about it, they were in fact engaged in identity group politics.
See, you equating every conservative with being a KKK member is highly simplistic, and highly erroneous.
I thought he was being sarcastic. I could be wrong. Edit: Ok that seems to be the case. /s is usually appropriate in these types of posts.
I am not. Not even close. There is a difference between All conservatives are racists and All racists are conservatives. I will let you try and sort that out.
You are saying that every conservative is a KKK member? If that is what you are saying, then I now know not to take anything you say seriously. And, if that is what you are saying, you then contradict yourself with your "racists/conservatives" syllogism. That statement suggests that there can in fact be conservatives who are not racists. If you think of "conservative" and "racist" as two different circles, then they probably do overlap a bit. But to equate one as being the same as the other is an egregious mistake. Lastly, if you think only conservatives can be racists, you haven't traveled outside of America. All kinds of people from varying political stripes can be racist.
It would help if you wrote clearly. Writing in an obfuscatory manner is not a sign of high intelligence (as some seem to think).
Not every conservative supports Trump. However every conservative that supports Trump, supports a racist. I wouldn’t lose sleep over it though. Being racist isn’t the worst thing to be. I can think of several other flaws Trump has that are worse than his racism.
Incorrect actually. I said it a few times and not sure why it’s not crystal clear. I used the example of me wearing a planned parenthood shirt to family thanksgiving. If I do that, I know I’m triggering emotions. The vape store situation is obviously different. However a Berkeley rally (the situation that set off the most recent debate) is more like me at Thanksgiving with a planned parenthood shirt on. If I wear a PP shirt to go buy groceries or go to a vape store. I’m not purposefully antagonizing someone, but there is still a risk that I meet someone like my mom at the store who is offended and maybe they snap. If you wear your MAGA stuff out to go buy groceries or to the vape shop... no you are not doing anything wrong, but you are still potentially triggering someone that you might catch in a vulnerable state of mind that snaps. There’s nothing right about that person snapping at you, but it’s still a risk you are taking. I’m not sure how much more clear I can be here. If you don’t understand why MAGA apparel could be offensive to some to the point where you MIGHT BE inviting conflict, I don’t know what else to say. And again... wear MAGA crap if you want. It’s a free country. But regardless if you believe it is or not, the fact is that many many people find MAGA offensive and you might or might not trigger someone emotionally. But you do you.
If you've never watched South Park in your life, you need to watch the Redskins episode (Go Fund Yourself)
I think one needs to be careful around topics like this, not to get caught up in naturalistic (or moralistic) fallacies, that there will be people who react adversely is a statement of what is, not a statement of what should be, and stating what should be, can never change human nature. It's a risk profile thing really, how much risk are you willing to take, everything we do has a level of risk though, some things higher than others. Is there a risk of being attacked for wearing a maga hat? sure, would it be their own fault? nope, but it doesn't change that it might happen, or that the person who attacks them would be a criminal. I'd say people have a responsibility (well at least those who want to live in a civil society) not to support or justify the actions of said criminal, because justification of violence through a grievance narrative never ends well for anyone.
It is a racist KKK slogan from the 20s-30s. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/03/donald-trump-kkk/473190/ DD
This is like saying that it would be helpful if you read clearly. What I wrote was simple and clear. You managed to suss out the meaning momentarily.
Haha.... I did? Anyway, I think we all need to be as clear as we can be, and not engage in confusing wording. For me at least, often I can only spend limited time here. (I'm sure some here take great encouragement from this. ) That means I need to be able to post quickly, and read and understand posts quickly.
A bit harsh. To my eyes, my font all looks the same -- black, and all in the same font. So I'm not sure what the other poster was talking about. Quite literally, I cannot see what he is seeing, or what he is talking about. He said something about the "dark" page or something like that. Some other format. Perhaps therein lies the reason? More to the point, does my font appear to be in different colors (or whatever) to you? [Sigh. Note to self: why do I get involved in these types of convos?]
Well, you are accepting the premise that Trump is a racist. I'm not sure I buy it. Perhaps that lies at the heart of my confusion about "No Worries" post. BTW, I would like to remind some people that I didn't vote for the Orange Hobgoblin. It's just that the opposition to him has lost its mind; makes up things about him; and thus needs (IMO) to be called out on it.
