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Danuel house IS Overrated here.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Le$$, Feb 14, 2019.

  1. heypartner

    heypartner Member

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    Add to that: he might be the only one willing to sign multi-year, making him a trade asset, vs a rental Buyout who becomes UFA.
     
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    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    Yeah, they need to restock the crops for sure.
     
  3. Easy

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    He is overrated after he has a good game and underrated after he has a bad game. These one-game reactions are a waste of time.

    A lot of people who say that "we gave him a contract and he refused" don't really understand the point. Yes, he refused a 3-year min contract. That's fine and dandy. He might or might not be smart to do that. We'll see what kind of money he can get down the road in the free market. But the Rockets could and still can just convert him and have him play for this season right now. That he cannot refuse. If we do not sign him for a multi-year contract, he can walk after the season whether or not we convert him.

    So assuming he is refusing the multi-year min deal and the Rockets do not want to sign him for more than the min, then the only options are (a) convert him now and have him play and then become a FA, or (b) let him stay in the G-league and become a FA. Which option do you think is good for the Rockets?
     
  4. bilaal14

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    We need dude back ASAP.
     
  5. sirbaihu

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    I do see your point: we can get the guy whether he wants to come or not.
    My own feeling about him turning down the offer is: looks like he's not so much of a team player, certainly not all psyched about being on the Rockets, like Green or Faried or you or I would be. I know he's super duper talented and all that, but maybe we should get guys who are psyched or at least positive about playing with the Rockets.
     
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    Well, maybe we should. But why aren't we? Where are those guys?
     
  7. snowconeman22

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    This is the true question .

    The only reason you pick b > a is if you think that if you pick choice a you lose him next season and if you pick b his value is lower and you have a better chance at keeping him on a team friendly deal next year .

    Which begs the question : if you are willing to sit him to the detriment of your team's play this year just because you want to keep him so badly next season , then why aren't you offering more than the minimum ?
     
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  8. sirbaihu

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    On the bench.
     
  9. heypartner

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    Morey doesn't think like that. It's been sourced that Morey still wants him.

    If there is one thing we know for damn sure, it is that House is psyched to be with the Rockets. Morey isn't acting like a spurned lover thinking, "Well, House isn't really all that psyched to play for us afterall," forget that loser, just because he turned down a team-friendly, longterm minimum deal.

    Psyched to play and contract negotiations can be two separate things.

    House is very psyched to play for Houston. He might be our best candidate for that criteria.
    • Faried is being paid $14m by the Nets right now. Not a valid comparison.
    • Green was ready to retire, with $20m career earnings in his pocket.
     
  10. heypartner

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    Yeah, Chiozza is on the Vipers bench, not even starting. :D
     
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    The difference with green and farried is that they are on 1 year deals .

    If they perform well , they can go get a raise in the offseason or at least use that as leverage to get the rockets to pay closer to market price .

    If House signed the deal then he would be locked in for 2 more years past this one .

    House wants to play for us ; the first thing he asked for is for the rockets to convert his contract as soon as his NBA time was up .

    But I can understand a guy not wanting to be locked in at the min for three years .
     
  12. sirbaihu

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    Whether House is a diva or not, the reason he's not on the bench and everyone is crying . . . is because House said no. Get mad at him. If Daniel House did not say no, all these people would not be crying everyday. Whatever: I guess they feel like CF is a petition to Rockets management and crying everyday is going to, like, push the team toward House and victory. Too bad House said no, huh? Gosh.

    True: there's no comparison between the gratefulness of Faried, Green, and House: House has over 600 minutes in the NBA, and Green has over 600 games; Faried was on USA Basketball, and House was on the Houston Rockets.
     
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    Cap question...

    Could a player be signed to a multi year contract on the last day of the season for an amount of the MLE that is equal to a prorated yearly salary of say $3,000,000? If so, that would make this years cap hit only be $16,959, and year 2 and 3 could both be $3,000,000.
    Since two-way players are playoffs eligible as long as they are converted to a regular NBA contract by the last day of season, House could play in the playoffs, get more money, and give the team a multi year deal.

    Edit: All while staying under luxury tax this year.
     
  14. heypartner

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    Faried, Shump and Gordon out



    but, but, but,,,we don't need House

    We can unilaterally convert him. And we will at some point. You seem against converting him, ever.
     
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    Don't bother with that guy, he's not for the rockets getting better, one of those lowest common denominator "fans". He just likes to follow people around , b****, and pretend he's a mod. Was actually dumb enough to call someone out for being a bad fan, when Clutch tweeted the same thing.

    Just put the weirdo on ignore, I recommend you do the same.
     
  16. Smacktle

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    The house is on fire we dont need no water let the mfr burn!
     
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    Are we waiting on House in order to save money? Is it luxury tax related? Because right now, this team is in the poor house, and we could sure use House. I've forgotten the financial implications re House, Jr., but if they exist and that's why he isn't warming up for this game, I hope it's worth it for Tilman and Daryl. It's certainly driving fans like me crazy.
     
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    sign house and upgrade power forward please
     
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    Me too.

    Someone correct me If I’m wrong, but I think there is a date in March where we can essentially convert him for nothing, and stay welllllll below the tax line.

    In my mind he has won the SF position outright, whether people think he is overrated or not. He is clearly our best SF judging by his 12 game stretch as a starter, and judging by our dreadful small ball lineups.
     
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    It just crazy to think that a g league player has the ability to put us over or under the cap. What kind of contract is he holding out for? The Rocket’s cap is so close and we can’t even sign buy out players and g leaguers? I have never heard of a team being this close to the cap before. The closest comparison is a tightrope act. Then on top of that Harden throws up historic numbers. The season is like the circus in all the good ways. It really has kept my interest to say the least. The only thing missing is youth playing past their potential. —> House
     

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