Can anyone remember when was the last time we got back to back buckets in a two for one situation? I am beginning to think we should just run the offense and get the best shot If it is at 35 seconds or 15 seconds. . . . I don't care if they get the last shot. . . .just score something Rocket River
It’s also probably important to see how many times you hit one of two. Because making one “good shot” would be the same lol
I don't have numbers to back it up (I'll look later today), but Harden seems to be much better in 2 for 1 situations than CP3. Paul seems to rush shots just for the sake of going 2 for 1, while Harden seems to play his normal game a little faster. Regardless, analytics back it up incrementally (going two for one is better, not dramatically better).
Also don't have numbers but anecdotally agree wtih @Hustle Town. Seems like it works out for us very often, to me. Also keep in mind, you don't have to get back to back buckets for this to be worth it. If there are 35 seconds left and we take the full 24, we can still miss. It's not like we get guaranteed points for taking our time. I'm not sure if there's a good way to get the numbers on our 2 for 1 plays other than going through play-by-play data manually, but I would bet good money that it works heavily in our favor.
Getting two shots is worth more than one good shot. CP and James are smart but I'm sure this has also come down from our math nerds up in the FO. When we do the 2-1 quick shot it's usually at 30-35 seconds left, and we usually have 10 seconds to get our last shot off. That's enough time to run something decent.
You’re looking to create possessions. No matter the result. You also have arguably the best offensive player in the game with two possessions to their one. It’s never a bad thing.
I kind of agree with OP, It looks to me that we never score in both possessions, specially the firs one...
I recall a couple of times if worked perfectly. Obviously it doesn’t always work, but it seems that Harden’s quick shots are often just as effective as the ones where he dribbles the clock down.
I distinctly remember it working out that way 2-3 games ago. More importantly, it always works in taking away a potential possession from the opposing team. 2-1 situations aren't simply about scoring, they are also about limiting the opponent's number of posessions.
Two for one scenarios have been around long before the analytics movement. It really just boils down to common sense. The more time my team has the ball, the less time available for the opponent to score.
This. It's always a smart thing to do, especially because it takes away a possession from the opponent.
Exactly. Also, nobody said that a two for one scenario has to be a rushed shot. It really depends on the time on the clock. If you have 45 seconds left in the quarter, You could easily run 13-20 seconds off the clock and still have enough time to run some quick action on the offensive end. In a 2 for 1 situation, I'd run something as easy and reliable as a high pick and roll with shooters spaced.
Points per possession is something the Rockets preach....doesnt matter if you get a bucket, freethrow or maximum about of points. The point is less possessions for the other team means more chances for a potent offense to get a little extra. My beef is with execution and not getting back down court to play defense. The Rockets are master's at setting up the 2 for 1. They start working the clock around the 1 min 30 sec mark. They usually get the advantage of the extra possession 2 out of 3 qrts. Problem is CP3 and Harden are too damn predictable, if I can scream what the play is, professionals surely knows what's coming. Just trust the other guys to make the shot. I think more driving and kicking needs to happen vs step back three.
This. Two possessions are always better than one possession - especially since we look to shoot 3s on every possession.
