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MAGA gear triggers crazy anti-Trumper

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by dachuda86, Dec 30, 2018.

  1. mick fry

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    Hey bobrek, I believe you are a self proclaimed Republican, has your hatred for Trump outweighed the lunacy of the left? If so are you considering becoming a Democrat? Just curious where you stand in general.
     
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    Any book will be an improvement for Comets...
     
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  3. fchowd0311

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    Either right wing posters in the D&D have no self-awareness or are trolling.

    Here's why. They will exuberantly express the common right wing phrase "This is how you will get Trump re-elected" in reference to their percieved ostracism from "liberal coastal elites" ignoring rural white blue collar workers or speaking of these groups in patronizing terms yet they can't apply that same logic to a movement figureheaded by Trump that centers around white identity politics that dismisses any issues minority groups might have such as urban black communities lacking trust in law enforcement due to a century of history that warrents that mistrust.
     
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  4. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    I will formulate a well thought out answer and get back to you later tonight. Getting ready to head out to Busch Gardens to drink beer and ride roller coasters. Probably a bad combination.

    I don't hate Trump. I do thInk he is an idiot and I won't vote for him, but he has put money in my pocket.
     
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  5. mick fry

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    Lol, hell that’s thought out enough, have fun.
     
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  6. FranchiseBlade

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    I know you weren't talking to me, but Black support for Trump is almost non-existent. The percentage is infinitesimally small.
     
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    In political discourse, it really is. A "bad" approval rating for a president is considered to be around 45 percent and below. 9% is horrendous.
     
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    Didn’t the election teach you anything about polls? I have to get to work and pay my taxes now. ;)
     
  12. fchowd0311

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    I'm confused. You made a claim about black support for Trump being higher than any other GOP president....

    How would you know that outside polling data? You tapped into the consciousness of Black America?
     
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    that's not the point. @FranchiseBlade made the claim that black support for Trump is "almost non-existent." I provided evidence of such support and provided a link to a CNN summary of reliable polling that places the number between 9% and 13%. These are NOT figures derived from the questionable Rasmussen polls.

    Let's use 10% for the sake of argument. If there are 25 million voter-eligible African American voters, 10% puts the number of Trump supporters at 2.5 million people. If you want to take 10% of black voters who actually have voted in recent Presidential elections, that's basically 10% of 17 million black voters, or 1.7 million people.
     
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    How many times does it have to be explained to you that the national polls in 2016 were not wrong?
     
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    That's a horrible percentage.

    If you sampled a poll to represent 25 million people of any demographic and asked them a "easy question" such as "should we nuke the middle East" you will always get a percentage around 5-15% stating "yes".

    The overwhelming vast majority of Black Americans are not Trump supporters .
     
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    again, the raw number of black voters who support Trump is estimated to be between 1.7 million people and 2.5 million people.
     
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    And the raw number than don't support him around 20-22.5 million assuming that poll sampling extrapolates perfectly.
     
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    FWIW I don’t think it is worth arguing over.

    10% isn’t 0% but it is pretty damn low. Someone like Hitler or Castro would likely push 10% of more in America.
     
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    suppose for the sake of argument the number was 20%, and that percentage of black voters turned the 2020 election to Trump. Would it be worth discussing at that point?

    https://www.investors.com/politics/columnists/trump-african-american-voters/
     
  20. jo mama

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    if thats the case, then as usual you havent been paying attention. perhaps you could ask beto o'rourke, the mayor of el paso?

    we have discussed this over and over and over and over again and i know this will go right over your head, but here you go anyway...

    1) saying that an american-born federal judge cant do their job properly b/c of their ethnicity is the definition of racism.
    2) calling mexican immigrants rapists and drug dealers is racist.
    3) saying neo-nazis who chant "jews will not replace us" are "very fine people"
    4) calling for death penalty for central park 5, even after they were exonerated
    5) calling for a ban of muslims entering the united states
    6) attacking a gold star mother and saying that she was not allowed to speak b/c she was muslim
    7) discriminatory housing practices in his properties.
    8) making a slur about native americans right to the face of a native american WWII vet.
    9) birtherism
    10) "We've just seen many, many crimes getting worse all the time, and as Maine knows — a major destination for Somali refugees — right, am I right?" - August 2016
    11) "the overwhelming amount of violent crime in our cities is committed by blacks and Hispanics,"
    12) falsely claimed that 81% of murders against whites are committed by blacks

    i could go on, but again, this will all go right over your head so i know it doesnt really matter.
     
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