Trump to declare national emergency to build border wall

They will let it ride. . . . try to get the money for the wall . . .. THEN override it and make it unconstitutional for when the Demos take over

Rocket River

 

so as recent as 2016, trump said its NOT an national emergency and NO executive order needed

so what happened between 2016 and now which made it a national emergency???

 

Sixteen states have filed suit to block Trump's emergency declaration:

https://theweek.com/speedreads/824420/16-states-sue-trump-over-national-emergency-declaration

Which will still raise the issue of whether they have standing to sue:

http://theglitteringeye.com/standing-2/

 

never been a fan of the dude, but lindsey graham has gone 100% trump cult member/toadie since mccain died...its almost as if he is being blackmailed or something.

 

Here, you missed your trump speaking points (you also forgot to blend in something about the bullet train).

 

how many of those "come and take it" types will be there on the border to protect landowners from having their land taken by trump for his vanity wall?

i 'memeber when republicans and conservatives were for private property rights, against eminent domain. i also 'memeber when these same types were freaking out over jade helm and saying it was a covert operation by obama. governor abbott even said that he would order the state guard to protect texans private property against this federal over-reach. but now he is in favor of seizing private property for trumps vanity wall.

 

I think the standing issue is a real issue. You are of course welcome to ignore it.

 

I don't ignore anything but you posted yet another blog from someone named dave. And is he questioning the legal standing of the president's national emergency or the states and local communities that are filing suit (some of which are directly effected by trump's vanity wall)?

That said, if you are defending trump, why not go right to the source?

 

I don't know anything about the impossibility of removing asylum seekers after their claim is rejected. If you know of any good reading on that subject, I'd appreciate a link.

The answer I gave myself (I heard it somewhere before) is that processing at the points of entry is so slow as to be a de facto refusal to allow an application. I've heard that people are often turned away at the crossing without explanation. And, the understanding rightly or wrongly is that you can submit your application much more quickly if you find a border patrol agent away from the port of entry.

Your explanation has an appeal as well. And immigrants aren't a monolith so I'm sure some have different motivations than others. Some are reported to have sought on CBP to surrender. Probably others try to evade CBP and then ask for asylum when they've been caught. How much of one and how much the other, I don't know. One thing I seem to notice though, especially with the caravans, is that there seems to be a consciousness in Central America that what is going on there is a humanitarian disaster and they want the political recognition of being called refugees and not "economic migrants." When we call them economic migrants, we turn a blind eye to the injustice happening there. That doesn't necessarily mean we need to take them all in, but maybe we should be paying more attention to what is going on there.

I've already asked myself the one question, now I have ask another? The political fight over the beds is dysfunctional, no lie. It stems from the fundamental disagreement over how to approach immigration between the president and the congress, and between Republicans and Democrats. Immigrants are stuck in the middle. We need to come to some compromise so we call all be rowing in the same direction.

 

here you go, same analysis from a FAR MORE RELIABLY ANTI-TRUMP WEBSITE:

With respect to the state lawsuit, the biggest issue at the beginning of the case is going to be the issue of standing, and in that respect, the issue could prove to be more complicated for some of the Plaintiff states than it will be for others. Of the states involved in the litigation, only two, New Mexico and California, are located on the U.S. border with Mexico. With respect to those states, one can easily see how they could be impacted by a border wall and by the declaration of a “national emergency” to get it built. Most of the other states, though, such as Minnesota, New Jersey, and Hawaii, aren’t anywhere near the U.S.-Mexican border and it is difficult to see exactly how they’d be impacted by the expedited building of the border wall. Potentially, I suppose, they might be able to make an argument that they will be impacted by the diversion of funds from the Defense Department that the Trump Administration is apparently considering. This is especially true if the reports that at least part of the funds that will be diverted include funding for the Army Corps of Engineers normally reserved for responding to natural disasters and the like are accurate. Beyond that, though, we may end up with a situation where the court rules that some of the states have standing to sue over the “national emergency” declaration where others do not. As a legal matter, that won’t necessarily hurt the underlying legal merits of the case, but even a partial win on standing is something the Administration is something they’ll count as a win.​

https://www.outsidethebeltway.com/s...ue-trump-over-border-wall-national-emergency/

more at the link

 

I think this blogger answered his own question...

And, this also ignores that some lawsuits are being filed for local counties and communities as well. Plus those that will be filed for environmental groups.

 

Violating Article I, Section 8, Clause 1 of the US Constitution (the power of the purse) should give all things USA standing.

 

Most interesting... more Independents (63%) than Democrats (61%) oppose the use of national emergency.

Poll: 6-In-10 Disapprove Of Trump's Declaration Of A National Emergency

https://www.npr.org/2019/02/19/6957...of-trumps-declaration-of-a-national-emergency

 

I bet Graham got caught up in Russians influencing PACs. His 180 regarding is too odd.

 

FIFY

 

Trump = vanity wall = shutdown = fake crisis = unpopular

 

No.... the poll was specifically geared towards the “emergency” at the border.