1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Robert Mueller, Former F.B.I. Director, Is Named Special Counsel for Russia Investigation

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by KingCheetah, May 17, 2017.

  1. Harrisment

    Harrisment Member

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2001
    Messages:
    15,392
    Likes Received:
    2,158
    Any normal person would surely be thrown in jail for making threats against the judge on their case. The DEEP STATE is really slippin.
     
  2. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2002
    Messages:
    35,985
    Likes Received:
    36,840
    Don't worry. I respect you or your posting persona or whatever, so I'll check that link. I usually avoid that outlet like I avoid the Daily Kos and Mother Jones too, but i'll give it a read. But I'm going to have my eyes pealed for bias presented as fact. Good writers are SO agile with that.
     
  3. jcf

    jcf Member

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2012
    Messages:
    2,190
    Likes Received:
    2,272
    Couldn't agree more.
     
  4. robbie380

    robbie380 ლ(▀̿Ĺ̯▀̿ ̿ლ)
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2002
    Messages:
    23,978
    Likes Received:
    11,133
    Yeah the site is certainly on the left, but the article seemed to lay things out pretty well and it seemed to be sourced well. I tend to try to see past bias as long as facts are presented. Maybe there are lies that I didn't catch, but it presented a lot of things that I didn't realize. This style of attack by the Feds is not uncommon either, so it did seem to make sense with the reality that I've heard about thru my dad's interactions with federal prosecutors. Feel free to rip it to shreds if you see lots of inaccuracies.

    The entire reason why I ended up reading the article was because I read the end first

    On November 23, 2018, Butina went to sleep on a blue mat atop the gray cement bed in her cell, her 81st day in solitary confinement. Hours later, in the middle of the night, she was awakened and marched to a new cell, 2E05, this one with a solid steel door and no food slot, preventing even the slightest communication. No reason was given, but her case had reached a critical point. Prosecutors were hoping to get her to plead guilty rather than go to trial, and had even agreed to drop the major charge against her: acting as an unregistered foreign agent of Russia. Born and raised in Siberia, she is terrified of solitary confinement. Fifteen days later, still in solitary, she signed the agreement, pleading guilty to the lesser charge, one count of conspiracy.

    I was pretty blown away that she was kept in solitary for that long. Anyhow, it left me with somewhere around the same level of disgust as after I finished reading All The Shah's Men.
     
    B-Bob likes this.
  5. NewRoxFan

    NewRoxFan Member

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2002
    Messages:
    55,794
    Likes Received:
    55,868
  6. NewRoxFan

    NewRoxFan Member

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2002
    Messages:
    55,794
    Likes Received:
    55,868
    fyi, the "gang of eight": mcconnell, schumer, burr, warner, schiff, nunes. Would seem pretty easy to verify this meeting happened.



    Perhaps, at this meeting?

    DOJ, FBI to brief 'Gang of 8' lawmakers on Russia probe after meeting with Nunes, Gowdy
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/do...n-russia-probe-after-meeting-with-nunes-gowdy
     
    KingCheetah and No Worries like this.
  7. Commodore

    Commodore Member

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2007
    Messages:
    33,569
    Likes Received:
    17,546
    McCabe is the quintessential bureaucratic weasel; he lies, he leaks, he retaliates.

    Remember, he opened an investigation into his own leaking to try and blame it on someone else (Lisa Page).

    He's likely the person that illegally leaked the classified Flynn conversation with the Russian ambassador. In an HR dispute between McCabe and another woman, Flynn testified in her favor.

     
  8. NewRoxFan

    NewRoxFan Member

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2002
    Messages:
    55,794
    Likes Received:
    55,868
    Funny how criminals always try to make themselves appear innocent by attacking law enforcement...

    Does this sound familiar?
     
    Rashmon, adoo and FranchiseBlade like this.
  9. KingCheetah

    KingCheetah Atomic Playboy
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2002
    Messages:
    59,079
    Likes Received:
    52,748
    A tweet in the legendary Clutchfans D&D -- @Will you have really made it.
     
  10. NewRoxFan

    NewRoxFan Member

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2002
    Messages:
    55,794
    Likes Received:
    55,868
    Good... the guy should be locked up.

     
    No Worries likes this.
  11. leroy

    leroy Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2002
    Messages:
    27,355
    Likes Received:
    11,218
    But he's really sorry...for threatening a Federal Judge.
     
    FranchiseBlade likes this.
  12. NewRoxFan

    NewRoxFan Member

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2002
    Messages:
    55,794
    Likes Received:
    55,868
    For people that like charts...

    [​IMG]
     
    Rashmon and B-Bob like this.
  13. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2002
    Messages:
    35,985
    Likes Received:
    36,840
    This is great insider information. How long have you two known each other?
     
  14. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2002
    Messages:
    35,985
    Likes Received:
    36,840
    Thank you for that. I do understand the concern and will read more. My suspicion: not that it's pretty, but this may well be S.O.P. for apprehended, strongly-suspected foreign spies. I also think some of us mens have extra sympathy for a young woman is such a situation versus the image of a grizzled, wizened KGB-type male adult. I wonder how her treatment squares with international agreements, but then, we seem to be living in an era where most governments just dismiss those rules of civility. Again, will check out the whole article.
     
  15. ipaman

    ipaman Member

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2002
    Messages:
    13,207
    Likes Received:
    8,046
    Trump comes from a line of deep NY businessmen and has surrounded himself with the same type of folks so of course he and his teams are comfortable with white collar corruption. It's what they do and apparently they continue to do so now that they hold civil positions. It's how those type of people operate, it's how they accumulated their wealth, it's the only thing they know. Interestingly, it seems most of the plebs envy that type of approach and personality.
     
  16. mtbrays

    mtbrays Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2007
    Messages:
    8,623
    Likes Received:
    8,040
    About as long as Commodore has personally known Robert Mueller.
     
  17. NewRoxFan

    NewRoxFan Member

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2002
    Messages:
    55,794
    Likes Received:
    55,868
  18. NewRoxFan

    NewRoxFan Member

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2002
    Messages:
    55,794
    Likes Received:
    55,868
  19. NewRoxFan

    NewRoxFan Member

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2002
    Messages:
    55,794
    Likes Received:
    55,868
    Reading between the lines |obstruction|

     
  20. NewRoxFan

    NewRoxFan Member

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2002
    Messages:
    55,794
    Likes Received:
    55,868

Share This Page