Except, I haven't criticized cruz for going by ted. Which he has for many years too. And trust me... I am definitely thinking what most others are thinking right now...
so majority of the time people use the nicknames given by their parents not because their parents gave it to them? I mean just quit it you were embarassed thinking cops and firemen were under Beto then Beto was a mayer then now you crying about Beto using the nickname his parents gave him?? and you sincerely care about voters being duped? LOL go to the trumps wall post thats what you 30%ers can always fall back on
normally id agree with you, but in this case you have someone who just makes a totally baseless claim that firefighters are inflating the numbers at betos rally to make him look good...and then claiming he is mayor! that person should absolutely be called out. and they had to acknowledge their mistake...it was so blatant and obviously false. i guess they get props for acknowledging it b/c most posters would just disappear. but, he is still claiming that el paso firefighters are liars with no evidence what-so-ever. all because his feelings are hurt that beto had a good turn-out. maybe if certain people focused less on questioning others motives and making up baseless accusations they would have more time to educate themselves on basic facts.
You think having an hispanic-sounding name is a net asset in a state that is over 60% not hispanic? If you think hispanics will reflexively vote for a Beto, why won't non-hispanics vote reflexively against him? The logic is like the one that says Hillary being a woman was a net asset. I don't believe it. Now, I do think running as Beto is an asset to him, but not because people will think he's hispanic. Being hispanic doesn't help you win state-wide elections. But I think it does some work for him. One, it's distinctive. Not nearly as forgettable as Robert. Two, it feels genuine and personable to run with your childhood nickname. Three, it puts a spotlight on his bordertown roots -- people quickly find out he's white, but find out at the same time that he grew up in a very Tex-Mex culture of which he is a product. And four, it demonstrates how he embraces diversity. Though he's white, he has adopted and embraces (and his parents too by using the name for their son) a cultural marker of the Mexican roots of his town and makes it part of his identity. So my argument is this. He is not getting advantage from tricking people into thinking he's hispanic with his name. He's using his name to demonstrate he's a rich, white liberal who practices what he preaches when he talks about diversity, supporting minority communities, fighting for the common man, whatever. That doesn't work when people think he is hispanic running to promote his own identitarian community. It only works when people know he's white.
This is what we are up against. Total disillusion from reality and facts. Doubling down on absurd claims and misinformation while simultaneously blaming mainstream media. And when confronted as a doofus? Such elitism is the reason that Trump is in office says the cheerleaders who didn’t vote for Trump. Good for a laugh on a message board, I guess
I wouldn't use a nickname to deceptively advance my political career, but he clearly did because people are usually more likely to vote for their tribe. To ignore this, is to ignore human behavior trends. You're welcome to your opinion man, but I can't agree.
It would have been a huge SAD if Beto didn't draw crowds in his own city. Many don't like talking about it, but he won the biggest and most populated counties not just in el paso but across texas from the RGV to Harris. https://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/texas-senate It's the boonies backward towns that drag and there are so many of them. The name thing is no different than someone named Rafael changing it to sound whiter. This feels like a November 2018 thread.
Is there any evidence to suggest that he didn't use this name during his school years and early adulthood, only re-adopting it for political use?
How about you put forward a real argument instead of trying to troll. I've explained my position and you all choose to be blind to reality. It's fine though. Go on being a mind slave.
Fine, but I did address this and maybe it got lost in the word wall. To run for statewide office in Texas, deceiving people to think you're hispanic is not a winning formula. That tribe isn't big enough. Only a third of Texans are hispanic. Half the state is non-hispanic white -- they should prefer Robert by your logic. 12% are black. They might think Robert could be black. Now Beto did lose. But, what sense would it make to pick a political strategy to make the majority of your state think you're not part of their tribe? That's irrational.
If some of you were as concerned about the truth as you are regarding a mixed up title we'd have a way better forum. Mistakes happen. I can't wait to crucify the lot of you in the coming weeks when you mix something up.
He didn't launch his career at the state level. He did it in El Paso. And I still disagree. It definitely helps. It's not an instant win of course. That wouldn't be realistic. He was Mayor afterall, yada yada. I'll own it.
I see. You're saying he started this Beto thing when he was running for Rep (or maybe city council?) so he could get latino votes in his district. By the time he was running for Senate, it was already his brand. I don't see the proof of it, but it's a better theory than what I thought you were saying.
