Kelly has basically limited herself. FoxNews doesn't want her and there is no other outlet (mainstream) that will touch her. The FoxNews Opinion Stench doesn't wash off.
Hopefully in another decade or two the dark tone make-up on a white individual will cease being offensive in and of itself. And the BLM issues will be resolved. In geisha culture the white make up is a nod of adoration towards that skin tone - black face can get to that level of perception too eventually. I think the Joy Behar example indicates that we are not too far off from that. After all, there was a black person in that clip and twitter existed in 2016 and yet no one really gave it too much attention.. Also, Diana Ross impersonation being compared to someone strutting out a Nazi costume is a false equivalency claim imho. Minstrel shows were about "funny" stereotypes and Nazis committed genocide. There is a definitive difference there - if you want to make comparisons to Nazis, you'd be better off using the Klansman costume comparison.
Yes, the same show that ordered Rosie Perez to apologize to Kelly Osbourne for being upset about Osbourbe’s racism on the show. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...er-Kelly-Osbourne-s-racist-Latino-remark.html For some reason, that and this blackface comment were never big enough scandals for the ClutchFan illiberals.
And the event happened over 40 years prior to that, and it hard to say exactly how Raven viewed it based on that clip. She seemed surprised to be sure. And of course it important to recognize that one black person never speaks for all black people. I didn't know about either incident. Kelly's problem is she was talking about it not being offensive, when obviously some people are, even if a majority are not. We've definitely seen things like Joy's costume evolve into being considered blackface, while what we saw with the Virginia Governor yearbook is 100% unquestioned racist version of blackface. It is interesting how Joy's costume compares to the one referenced by Kelly. It is basically the same, though Joy's is incredibly well done while the other is quite haphazard. The first blackface incident I can recall becoming national headlines was Julianne Hough's Halloween costume of a character from Orange is the New Black and that was 2013, so it at least goes back to then.
Understood, but if we can go decades back, it shouldn't matter that she casually disclosed it in 2016. Does anyone know if she has weighed in on the situation in VA?
Behar's blackface is the costume that I think shouldn't be considered offensive. She wanted to dress up as someone of the other race, but more as a positive experience as opposed to being an offensive caricature. Unfortunately, people are too quick to be outraged to consider context and would rather make heads roll to satisfy their own bloodlust. Will society enforce the rules it has placed, or is this going to be a double standard? My money is on the latter due to Behar's politics.
In this silly outraged world, cultural appropriation could get you the axe. She is liberal hollywood so she will be ok but others should probably not adopt this practice.
This is obviously not the discussion we need, but the discussion we deserve for denying the true extent of our Racist past. People quote Orwell with doublespeak and thought police, yet it's just the same when we shroud history with ignorance by removing it's context. The words to describe the experience of the minority are lost and everyone is left with a fragmented narrative that's difficult and emotionally draining to piece together.
Darkening your skin to culturally appropriate someone's race is essentially blackface in present day society. Hell, even wearing a costume with fake tan skin will earn you a scarlet letter 'R' for racist.
I think we're all agreed that none of that **** is acceptable now; Speedy Gonzales "drunk mexican" in sombrero and Pancho Villa looking garb needs to go to that same costume hell. Al Jolson blackface is a 'wow, wtf' kind of thing that is and has been impossible to defend. Is there a statute of limitations, though? Before 1960s? were some things culturally acceptable that we deem abhorrent now? I say yes, and I'm glad we've changed, and keep doing so.
I'm not really in agreement with society's opinion about dressing up as someone from another race. There's a difference between respectfully cosplaying as someone you idolize versus perpetuating offensive stereotypes. People no longer understand the difference. I support more freedom of expression and less censorship. I like to learn and experience other cultures as well. But with the cultural appropriation movement that possesses cultures and isolates them from outsiders, that's no longer acceptable to appreciate another's culture.
