LOL those who are afraid of the UK leaving the EU seemingly only have one response, fearmongering. Sorry it's just not going to work. I know you guys are afraid of a situation where the EU collapses and you lose out on that economic aid, but you are just going to have to deal with it. Try to do so with some dignity.
I am starting to be come concerned that if you are not careful, you are going to blow a fuse or something over this.
I dont know about you but I dont feel as a decent human being ,taking bets on the wellbeing of other humans. Sport bets okay but brexit bets is disgusting. And that comes from someone who is of half mind right now to see England (not the UK as a whole but England) go down in flames to purify the snobbish stink out of them.
Imagine if I was Irish right? To have almost commited genocide by forced starvation a whole nation, abused, massacred, enslaved and bullied for centuries their people to be a in war of a terror with them until only 20 years ago, and then to come and suggest they join the united kingdom..I think blowing a fuse is too little to be honest.
I apparently don't. You seem to be implying that there is more than just the divide between people who value national sovereignty and a measure of individual freedom, and those who thoughtlessly defer to the interests of their establishment betters, which is what most of this seems to come down to. Is that right?
If half the people in UK think nothing will happen, maybe it is true, so let's find out. If the exit is really bad for UK, oh well, too bad, elections have consequences.
To be fair, they were deluded, snob, arrogant xenophobic bullies at the height of Imperial power, too.
You are right. It was not an election but actions have consequences. Thinking that nothing will change reminds of when I was listening to the Dan Carlin History podcast recently. The background always changes but human nature is the only costant. Thinking no matter what actions the people are insulated of changes, has been a common occurence in history.
The reason @malakas is so over the top about this is due to what it means for her country, Greece. They are a freeloading country in the EU that benefits greatly from countries like the UK who pay in far more than they get back. If the UK leaves the EU and the EU ends up collapsing, that would cost Greece something like 5 billion dollars a year which is a substantial part of their total GDP. So she's rightfully afraid of that happening which leads her to parrot EU talking points in an effort to make the UK fearful of the "consequences" of Brexit. Basically since they are afraid of what it will mean to them, they try to talk the UK into being fearful of what it will mean to them....despite the fact that the UK will benefit long term from Brexit.
What? Not me THEY are. What do you think is the root of the problem with Mays deal? The Irish Backstop. Why? A lot of Eu countries have external borders and they have checks and searches and there is no issue. If for example Portugal left the EU there will be no issue with a backstop. Who told the British to torture and exploit the Irish nation for centuries? Who told the British to occupy Northern Ireland? And who told the British to sign 20 years ago as co guarantor the Good Friday agreement to stop the reign of terror? They have noone but themselves to blame.
Thank you for clarifying all of that for me. I did not know she was from Greece or that she was concerned from this perspective. I wish the Greeks the best and certainly wish them no harm. But extending that to mean permanent bondage of countries to remain in the EU even if their nation has decided they want to leave is taking things too far. I remember the fit these people had when the Germans refused to pony up to maintain the Greek's socialist promises to their people. It was surreal to watch them riot in the streets to protest the unwillingness of the Germans to fund the Greek government's unsustainable fiscal arrangements - and that not just one time, but indefinitely! You really cannot make this stuff up. Or at least I could not have, prior to seeing that whole spectacle unfold. So, it sounds like you are saying this is a different chapter of that same saga. I feel sad for the Greek people. But they cannot build their fiscal house on the backs of the tax payers of other countries. Period.
Well, I do not expect to see it happen, but Ireland joining the UK would wrap this up in particularly nifty fashion.
LMAO why in gods name should the Irish accomodate the UK? Always being bullied and forced to comply? The UK has signed an international treaty. It is THEIR responsibillity to comply with it if they want it to be still valid. The British have made their decision and the Irish have their own republic their own democracy and no reason to be bullied and forced to bail them out. Only three days ago there was a bomb attack in Dover. I can overlook the complete lack of historical knowledge and sensitivity from an American. However when this comes from BBC it is inexcusable!
