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Trump Youth Taunt Native American Elder

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Carl Herrera, Jan 19, 2019.

  1. MojoMan

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    So the Democrat leftists are now down to harassing and bullying children with their racist, politically motivated attacks, fronted by the mass media.

    Disgusting.
     
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    Andrew Sullivan weighs in:

    Andrew Sullivan on Covington: ‘They were 16-year-olds subjected to verbal racist assault’

    To put it bluntly: They were 16-year-olds subjected to verbal racist assault by grown men; and then the kids were accused of being bigots. It just beggars belief that the same liberals who fret about “micro-aggressions” for 20-somethings were able to see 16-year-olds absorbing the worst racist garbage from religious bigots … and then express the desire to punch the kids in the face.

    How did this grotesque inversion of the truth become the central narrative for what seemed to be the entire class of elite journalists on Twitter? That’s the somewhat terrifying question.

    {More at the link}​
     
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    I’m with you. Some in here don’t get the difference. What a joke to bring up sports as a comparison
     
  4. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Abuse? haha, who abused them? They were abused by drums and peace chants? Wow, you guys really will do anything to defend those racist kids.
     
  5. Os Trigonum

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    Perhaps what "you guys" are "defending" against is the potential racial injustice of what Kevin Williamson calls "Involuntary Identity Politics":

    "The story that was presented about the Covington students turned out to be a fabrication, but even in the face of what the New York Times antiseptically described as the 'fuller picture' that 'emerged' (how many sins may be hidden in an intransitive verb!), progressives insisted that the children must be punished for the sins of white men going back to the first uptight specimen of H. pallidus to emerge from the Caucasus in a Brooks Brothers loincloth.

    "As my colleague Ramesh Ponnuru has noted, much of this consisted of an unseemly focus on the character of the children’s faces: Ruth Graham in Slate pouring bile on one boy’s 'face of self-satisfaction and certitude, of edginess expressed as cruelty,' Reza Aslan writing about a child’s 'punchable face,' etc. Ponnuru writes: 'For Anne Helen Peterson, a writer for Buzzfeed, both Sandmann and Kavanaugh have "the look of white patriarchy" — hard to avoid, given that they are white and male — and reminded her of disrespectful kids she used to teach, kids who asked for extensions and plagiarized and snickered in class. She knew hardly anything about Sandmann. She didn’t need to know anything: She had seen his type before.'

    "If you ever have spent any time around racial bigots of the old-fashioned peckerwood-trash variety, you have seen this dynamic in action: A black man who commits a crime is not a black man who commits a crime, but a type and a representation of his race as a whole; a man of Mexican background who gets into an automobile accident and has no insurance is typical of Hispanic people as a class; a Jewish man who works in a bank is a 'Jew banker' and part of a line that goes back through Mayer Rothschild to Judas Iscariot and the moneychangers in the temple. To mentally normal and morally literate adults, this kind of obvious prejudice and hate-mongering is repugnant — until it isn’t. Even when Kavanaugh accusers such as Judy Munro-Leighton confessed fabricating their stories — Munro-Leighton claimed to be one of the 'Jane Doe' accusers, which she later admitted was 'a ploy' and 'a way to grab attention' — the Kavanaugh inquisitors remained unshaken in their faith: Maybe this or that claim of fact turned out to be a lie, but Kavanaugh must be guilty in general if not in particular, because he is one of them.

    "That this primitive and superstitious notion of collective guilt should inform the confirmation hearings of a Supreme Court justice was unseemly enough — 'This is Washington, this is politics,' said CNN’s Jim Sciutto in a remarkably forthright public confession — but to deploy such tactics against children is another kind of thing entirely.

    "In the Covington fiasco, the very American progressives who boast so tirelessly and tediously that they are 'for the People' have reclaimed an ancient prerogative of aristocracy: the whipping boy."

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/01/covington-catholic-students-progressive-identity-politics/
     
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    You keep calling them racist to try to soften the blow of being horribly wrong on this one. The only amusement left in this thread is watching you as pictured below.

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    The Dems and the media as Trump grows stronger from every move they make like this.

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  8. NewRoxFan

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    trump growing stronger...

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    Transgender {something} hits a random individual in the face with an axe -- blaming their attack on their own voluntary sex change. It doesn't have seemed to have been given the same amount of attention as a smirking 16 year old. Wonder why?

     
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    A 4th-wave feminist man shows up to a school with a political messaged shirt -- "Smash the patriarchy" -- and pulls a gun on a cop.

    This terrorist incident has not garnered the same amount of attention in the media as a smirking 16 year old. Wonder why?

     
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    Mocking native american culture is disgusting. Not sure why "you guys" are vehemently defending it so much. It's silly, just say they acted poorly. \
     
  12. Os Trigonum

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    I'm not so sure that on the spur of the moment they were "mocking native american culture."

    Some guy shows up beating a drum halfway through their school chants, and I'd say they simply reacted spontaneously.
     
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    Thanks for the article. I've stayed away from this thread after the initial reaction for good reason.

    I wouldn't be surprised in the next 20 years if everyone threw their hands up and voted in a dictator to resolve everything for us.

    I'll be retreating to Mars or 3D InstaFace

    When politics gets tribal, compromise becomes impossible. This is one hell of a game of brinkmanship. But if no one compromises, and nothing happens,​
     
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    How do you think Phillips acted?

    How about the BHI?

    Of the 3, upon whom do you place the most responsibility?
     
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    Well, the BHI were clearly in the wrong. As were the students that mocked Phillips. But you are neglecting to mention the chaperones that failed to remove the students from a terrible situation or to urge them to apologize to Mr. Phillips. They too bear responsibility for the situation.
     
  16. Os Trigonum

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    my understanding was that the students asked permission of the chaperones to do the school chants while they were waiting for their bus--and I suspect the chants were intended also to drown out the BHI

    here's another thing that might well be considered---after being harassed by the BHI for an hour (?) the guy beating the drum shows up to one-up the BHI . . . how exactly are these kids supposed to process that new development and infer Nathan Phillips's noble intentions? for all they know he's simply somebody else newly-arrived to pile on with the harassment.
     
  17. Nook

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    Leave the kid alone.

    I don’t know everything that was said, but there isn’t enough evidence to go all out on that kid.

    People make mistakes and the bigger man learns from it and moves on. The optics were terrible but there just isn’t enough evidence to attack that kid
     
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    Then if true (the intentions of the mocking "war chants"), the chaperones showed even poorer sense. If my daughters were on a school field trip and trouble arose, my immediate expectations would be that the chaperones would remove my daughters from the situations. The students should have been pulled together as a group and moved away from the other group and closer to where the buses would pick them up.

    And I would have been even more upset if the chaperones would have thought it acceptable if the students they were entrusted with would be allowed or any way encouraged to do something I feel is offensive. And mocking a Native American like that is offensive.
     
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    QUOTE="NewRoxFan, post: 12197388, member: 3523"]Well, the BHI were clearly in the wrong. As were the students that mocked Phillips. But you are neglecting to mention the chaperones that failed to remove the students from a terrible situation or to urge them to apologize to Mr. Phillips. They too bear responsibility for the situation.[/QUOTE]
    Thanks for chiming in, but I also asked about Phillips. What are your views re: his conduct? Do you believe he borrowed the drum and them approached the kids to bring peace and love? Or does he bear some blame for exacerbating an already tense situation?
     
  20. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    BHI are built of the same ilk as white supremacists - of course what they did was disgusting. No one is defending them here. As for Philips - all he did was beat a drum and walk near them. They came down the steps and encircled him. He's not a saint but he's not an instigator either. The right-wing media is desperately in need to smear him and attack him in order to make the students look good here.

    Fact is both BHI and these Catholic students were behaving badly, Philips tried to intervene to create peace but it was frankly misguided yet harmless. He spoke no words.
     

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