Robert Mueller, Former F.B.I. Director, Is Named Special Counsel for Russia Investigation

Yea, it's fairly apparent you have misread my statements and position.

All you have done is explain obvious thing like, "They go in at dawn because that's when people are sleeping" - Oh, wow, really? Is that why people have been doing that for centuries? For the element of surprise!? Thank you so much for explaining that.

I've examined the situation and developed an opinion much like what people do on an internet forum.

You can disagree.

If you think the FBI needs to conduct a pre-dawn raid with a SWAT team to arrest Roger Stone, an elderly man who was shortly after released on bail. That's your prerogative. I think it's over the top.

 

What next, jay sekulow says he is innocent? How about rudy?

 

"In their minds O.J. was guilty, and therefore it was OK to frame him." -- Dershowitz

 

Someone needs to put Dershowitz and Giuliani in a dog crate together and let them scratch each other’s eyes out.

Talk about past their prime.

 

Is there room enough for the Pats: Robertson and Buchanan?

 

And a vid of Ann Coulter and Sarah Sanders 69ing please.

 

Thanks a lot! I was about to go to bed........now I don't exactly see peaceful slumber in my future.

 

Jeanine Pirro and Nancy Grace...jello wrestling

 

The Russians released that on WikiPeeks.

 

Dershowitz and Guiliani should start a law firm.

 

Why are republicans stalling?

 

Fantastic twitter thread on Mueller's stone indictment... author of tweets steps through what Mueller has...

 

this morning's editorial in the Wall Street Journal

https://www.wsj.com/articles/keystone-kops-collusion-11548460227?mod=hp_opin_pos3

Keystone Kops Collusion
Roger Stone couldn’t even get Steve Bannon to take his phone call.
372 Comments
By The Editorial Board
Jan. 25, 2019 6:50 p.m. ET

Robert Mueller’s indictment Friday of Roger Stone proves, if more proof were needed, that Donald Trump has awful judgment in political associates. What it doesn’t show, within the four corners of the indictment, is Russia-Trump collusion.

The special counsel charged Mr. Stone with seven counts of lying to Congress, obstructing an investigation and witness tampering. All of the charges relate to what the indictment says were Mr. Stone’s lies in 2017 to the House Intelligence Committee about his interactions in 2016 with WikiLeaks, the Julian Assange outfit that published documents stolen from Democrats.

According to the indictment, after WikiLeaks’ July 22, 2016 release of stolen Democratic National Committee emails, Mr. Stone enlisted conspiracy theorist Jerome Corsi to obtain other emails from WikiLeaks to hurt the Hillary Clinton campaign. Mr. Stone also sought help from Randy Credico, who had Mr. Assange on his radio show.

Mr. Assange is nasty and anti-American, and communicating with him was sleazy but it wasn’t a crime. This makes Mr. Stone’s alleged lies all the more bizarre. The indictment notes Mr. Stone sent a letter to the House Intelligence Committee in May 2017 falsely claiming he possessed no documents or emails related to its investigation. But the indictment offers extensive evidence of his WikiLeaks efforts.

Mr. Stone also told Congress that Mr. Credico was his sole go-between with WikiLeaks, omitting Mr. Corsi. He told House investigators that he never asked Mr. Credico to communicate with Mr. Assange, and that he also never discussed his outreach with the Trump campaign. Emails show otherwise. The witness-tampering charges stem from threats Mr. Stone allegedly made to Mr. Credico in fall 2017, trying to get him to stonewall or lie to Congress. Mr. Stone denies the charges and says he will plead not guilty.

The most significant Trump campaign angle is a corner of the indictment that says: “After the July 22, 2016 release of stolen DNC emails by [WikiLeaks], a senior Trump Campaign official was directed to contact STONE about any additional releases and what other damaging information [WikiLeaks] had regarding the Clinton Campaign.”

But Mr. Mueller doesn’t assert any larger connection, perhaps because this outreach came after the first WikiLeaks document dump when everyone in the world was wondering what might come next. Mr. Stone does not appear to have personally communicated with Mr. Assange.

The Trump campaign may even have figured out Mr. Stone’s hype, since at one point Mr. Stone griped to a Breitbart editor that he wanted to tell then-Trump campaign chairman Steve Bannon about his WikiLeaks efforts, but Mr. Bannon “doesn’t call me back.” According to emails released by the New York Times, the Breitbart editor prodded Mr. Bannon to “call Roger,” to which Mr. Bannon replied: “I’ve got important stuff to worry about.” When Mr. Bannon did reach out, Mr. Stone merely repeated a WikiLeaks announcement from earlier.

The important question for Mr. Trump’s Presidency is whether Mr. Mueller knows more than what is in the indictment about Trump campaign ties with WikiLeaks or Russian hackers. Mr. Stone’s Keystone Kops attempts at colluding with WikiLeaks were sleazy and stupid but they seem to have amounted to little.

It’s also worth noting how far afield this indictment is from the FBI’s focus in 2016 on third-tier Trump campaign advisers George Papadopoulos and Carter Page, and the Clinton opposition research known as the Steele dossier. The dots of supposed collusion still haven’t been connected.

Appeared in the January 26, 2019, print edition.
​

 

again an alternative perspective for anyone who cares about that kind of thing

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/01/more-mueller-madness-18.php

discussing this piece by Andrew McCarthy:

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019...tment-underscores-no-trump-russia-conspiracy/

 

LOL at the current defense of trump... that trump's closest and longest adviser is a cartoon, daft. That assange and wikileaks is only nasty and unAmerican. And that anything efforts by stone, bannon, or even trump himself to get emails from assange/wikileaks was simply sleazy, stupid, a "dirty trick." And sure, lying to Congress is wrong, I guess... but is it really that bad?

And, as usual, the fall back... what about Hillary (and her emails)?

 

The best defense for Stone and really most the Trump criminals is the classic statement “the cover up is worse than the crime”.

It’s an obvious and highly illegal cover up that the Trump team has committed and there is a price to pay for that. You’d think these “law and order” Republicans wouid agree to that.

The other line of thinking is that why would nearly everyone around Trump so obviously break the law in the “cover up” if there wasn’t actually something to hide? That’s a question not even the most hardcore Trumper cannot answer in any way that would make sense.

.....

But all the circumstantial evidence makes it obvious that of course they were in on it regardless.

The fact is either you care that Trump and his band of goons colluded with Russia or you simply just don’t give a crap. Just be honest about it now please.

 

but, but... no collusion.

 

Thanks for posting BrOs.

This heartens me to read. This is so so very bad, and it's the literal best the Trump/Establishment enablers at the WSJ editorial shitshow could come up with.

Remember these are the bow tie wearing "best and brightest" college Republican types, not the dirt flinging onlincels or the diner country interview brigade.

And it's just awful. I mean, it's so very very bad.