Makes you wonder how the UK ever survived in the past without being part of the EU.....or how the US or Japan has survived to this day without ever being a member. Apparently according to the propaganda, nations cannot exist without the EU.
Yea, I mean, the referendum took place 2 1/2 years ago. I don't know why the EU and the UK haven't been able to work out a deal. That should certainly be enough time to do so though. A referendum was held, UK residents voted and the majority expressed a desire to leave the EU. They should be able to do so. In practice, what this process has shown is that the UK joined the EU and can now never ever leave - which is ridiculous.
Noone is keeping them. Its their problem if they cant accept a backstop in Northern Ireland. What a country cant do, is have their cake and eat it too. They wanted and expected the EU to sell out Ireland but Brussels remained united. May and Moggs repeatedly demanded that they be allowed to negotiate aka bully directly with Dublin. They also can leave with no deal if they accept the consequences. But the british themselves cant accept them. Tell me who is forcing them to stay?
If the act of leaving is such an onerous process, which it has proven to be, it means, effectively, the UK cannot leave.
Leaving a union means forgoing the priviledges it offers along with the responsibillities. Isnt it normal? Onerous or not it depends on the eye of the beholder. If someone thinks that free movement of people, goods and services isnt all that much to miss, like the majority of the british public did when they voted leave, then this situation should be expected. I really dont understand how it should be any different. They can leave in 2 months as they voted to. If they dont thats their choice. Actually its a favour that they are even allowed to postpone Brexit.
John Bercow appears to be on the verge of being the first Speaker of Parliament in 230 years to be excluded from the House of Lords upon retirement. This after he interferred in the legislative process in a way that favored the Brexit Remainers last Wednesday. Theresa May to block John Bercow’s peerage Prime minister angry at ‘appalling behaviour’ in Commons John Bercow is set to become the first Speaker in 230 years to have his peerage blocked after ministers moved to punish him for “bias” during Brexit debates, The Times has learnt. Commons Speakers are usually automatically offered a seat in the House of Lords after approval by No 10 but relations between Mr Bercow and the government have broken down. The Speaker tore up years of precedent on Wednesday last week to change Commons rules and allow MPs to control business of the House. “Precedents of Speakers getting peerages don’t last for ever either,” one senior Tory said last night. A Speaker of Parliament is expected to remain neutral and objectively detached in their conduct, and sadly, Speaker Bercow failed to uphold that very important standard. Now he is poised to pay the price. Or at least part of the price, as their is likely more retribution coming his way than just this.
I mean the EU is giving the UK additional time if it needs it. What does that tell you about the EU’s position? A no deal Brexit isn't in the interests of either parties involved as after 45 years of integration it would be chaotic to go down that path.
Because the US and Japan are stronger economically than the U.K.... The Japanese rebuilt and modernized more successfully than the U.K., which isn’t to say Japan doesn’t have its issues.
Some folks prefer to prevent their country from enacting disastrous policy. You catch Nigel Farage’s remarks last night? Still think Brexit will happen on time?
We will see. The opponents to Brexit are literally firing their rhetorical and political nukes, even as we speak. There will be no weapons left un-fired or unused ammunition remaining at the end of this, that is for sure. It will not be over until it is over, on that we should all be in agreement. But I think the odds are still currently slightly in favor of a "No deal" Brexit happening on schedule on March 29, 2019. Farage is firing his weapons as well, which is to make sure that everyone on his side is alert and as wound up as they can be. Just like the UK mass media and the rest of the Remainers are also doing with anyone they can get to listen to them.
You know how you keep Brexit, by not being incompetent. It sucks Brexits only had the emotional argument and had no policy. But that’s the result of being emotional. Farage tune has changed from how easy Brexit will be and all the benefits to the reality of the situation.
This made me laugh so much. The Uk polity does not have a clear distinction of the legislature and executive branches. Remember what the Speaker said to Mays dogs?" I wont be pushed around by members of the executive branch" The Uk system has famously been described as a democratic dicatorship. Till a few years ago the whips were physically abusing MPs in the corridors, grabbing them by the balls, shoving them not to mention verbal and psychological blackmail. The MPs especially the new ones were terrified to ever dare to vote against party policy. Only with Brexit because of the enormity of the decision MPs have been emboldened to vote according to their own conscience accross party lines. Perhaps that will be the one clear bright legacy Brexit will leave Britain with since so far it has if nothing else divide a nation. So May can suck it but more likely than not Speaker Bercow will be heralded and remembered in history as a pioneer while she as a useless incompetent delusional politician. Its about time the Uk constitution enters the modern world. We are not the 1600s.
Here is a paragraph from an excellent article by Conrad Black, who is a writer I look forward to reading on almost any topic. I will not quote it all here, but there is a good bit more at the link. Contrary to most of the "mainstream" media, I think he has likely got it right here, yet again: Conrad Black: Theresa May will find her way to a victory Because the Conservative MPs are mainly remainers and the Conservative voters are mainly leavers, it was impossible to get a parliamentary majority for any option. So it may be that the prime minister was right after all: she took her best guess at what the 27 European states would accept, let parliament reject it, and will tell Brussels to make more concessions or Britain exits, and let the clock run out. Theresa May will have delivered Brexit despite the wishes of the majority of her MPs but to the satisfaction of most of her voters. And her party can’t sack her for a year, by which time she will have executed Britain’s departure and started good faith negotiations for new arrangements with Europe and the United States. The aftereffects of Brexit will be negligible, and there is no need for a hard border between Northern Ireland and the Republic as long as there is no plan to impose tariffs on the EU and Ireland retains a sensible immigration policy.
Long term I think that would be accurate. There will likely be no NEGATIVE long term after effects of Brexit, even and especially if they are forced to do a no deal Brexit.
I agree. The transition with no deal will be a bumpy ride. But going forward, the UK is almost assurendly going to be stronger than they would have been as a member of the EU, especially as they rack up unilateral trade agreements with more other nations than any other country on Earth. Watch and see. The UK is going to be an international powerhouse and quite a few countries that remain stuck in the EU are going to be green with envy.
That author is really more delusional than even the head of hard Brexiters. They at least have admitted that it will take 50 years for the aftereffects in the economy to pass.
There are 70 days (10 weeks) until Brexit with no deal, which is what will happen unless Parliament agrees on a different alternative prior to that time.
So the UKs largest trading partner is the E.U.... you think they are going to become an economic powerhouse how exactly....? The U.K. leading industry is financial services which is losing services to the E.U. What industry do you think the U.K. has that will make them become economic powerhouse?
