DD...I'm as annoyed at the House situation as anybody...but Danuel House is not going to make or break the Harden era
Tryone proves that House has nothing to lose. It isn't a matter of unfair. And it is actually good for the Rockets. If House can only get Tyrone's deal, then the Rockets can match without using the MLE. Do you think House is stupid for trying, since he's nearly guaranteed to get at least Wallace's offer? Not a DMo situation. Which proves these 2yr / $7m offers do exist for 2-ways. If he gets one, he can get paid. I mean, DMo was going to go to the Nets. So, what?
I think House gets it but he realizes that if he takes that 3 year deal he’ll probably never get a lucrative long term deal, considering he’s 26-27 now. House doesn’t necessarily need the Rockets, he just needs a NBA team to offer more than the minimum
What If he gets hurt in the GLeague? (Then he gets NOTHING) Right now he could have 4.5 million GUARANTEED, and have the greatest opportunity he could hope to get to be CERTIFIED. Facts: Danuel House is in the GLeague, not playing with James Harden and Mike D'Antoni. From here his value only plummets, stepping away from a 35 mpg showcase on a championship contending team. At age 28, he can absolutely get a contract that shreds anything he gets now. D'Antoni players are known for getting paid, and he has the opportunity to get major minutes in a system he has been successful in, which has never happened in his NBA life. If he etches his name in stone the next 3 years as a consistent viable starter, he gets paid 4.5 million over that time, and a far better contract than anything he could get now, (In a likely crappier situation where he will likely not fit in as well as he does here).
No, that's where I disagree. I think House has everything to lose because here, in Houston, he had locked down a starting spot and he had built a relationship with a coach and a team. He can get paid the same and never get the same opportunity. You're looking at just the money aspect of it...I'm looking at the opportunity he was given and him turning that down. Playing on a playoff team and possibly starting on that team. It's like would you rather be an intern for the Supreme Court or for some smaller local court? Being a possible starter on a playoff team is a huge opportunity that he may be turning down. Going head to head with the likes of the Warriors and Lakers and making a name for himself as a key role player on a contending team. That's what he's turning down right now too. Now, he could land on another competent team like the Spurs, sure, but we don't know that. He could end up on a bad team playing behind a lotto pick or other young prospect that the team wants to play for the experience.
And this includes the very real possibility that Morey gets House to sign a 3yr, minimum deal then trades him this summer, such that he never really gets to increase his value playing with Harden, like you say he should factor into his contract demands. You can't say Morey will look out for the team, yet also imply Morey would never trade House. DMo was likewise concerned about being traded.
Tyrone Wallace's deal is pretty awful though. It's two years with only $300k guaranteed in each year. If House went from vet minimum guaranteed to only $300k guaranteed, that's a terrible loss for House.
People just fail to realize what he is risking is earning wayyyy more playing meaningful minutes on a contender with harden for two season and putting up stats and then getting a contract. So many short term memories smh
Uh, dude, your value cannot plummet below the minimum...which he's supposed to accept for 3yrs. Tyrone Wallace's value did not plummet at all, after rejecting his deal and being stashed in the G-League. Let's stick to the facts, please.
F'ing BINGO. He is turning down 1st Rd Pick Guaranteed Cash, and he is turning down a winning lottery ticket If he simply continues his play as of late. Perfect system, perfect coach, perfect staff for Danuel House's development, and he is playing at home close to family. It is very possible that he will never find this opportunity again, but kudos to him If he does. I just don't see it. He will not get paid much more than 4.5 million over 3 years, and I really doubt he will find a spot that has the opportunity to get him paid more than Houston in the future. D'Antoni gets guys paid. James Harden gets guy paid. Being a starter on a contending team WILL get you paid. 15 games or so isn't enough. GLeague for a year is going to kill your value, ESPECIALLY If James Nunnally steps in with any success.
This may been mentioned already, so I apologize in advance for the repeat question, but how much of the MLE is left for Houston to use and how much did we have initially?
I don’t know why people acting like he is old lol. He plays two seasons here and will be ready for a new contract at 28 or 29. Im confused
Well Morey could trade anyone though, Morey could trade Capela, he could trade Gordon. I get that. I never implied that Morey wouldn't be open to trading House. Morey could trade anyone outside of Harden at any given time. Still, if House is in a trade then I assume he's already raised his value to the team that is acquiring him. See, I don't think the team that would sign him would necessarily value him. They'd just see him as "a guy that had a hot stint for the Rockets and maybe he has one here." but there's no guarantee that they'll be patient at all with him or won't cut him for their own pet Zhou Qi-esque project. Here he had a chance to make himself valuable to the team.
Let’s see what we value nunually or whatever his name is after tonight lol. Morey gonna have to release chris Paul to sign house and nunually
It most CERTAINLY can, and has for many players. Danuel House should know this better than anyone. Let's keep the nonsense out of this heypartner. Value can go WAY lower than 4.5 million guaranteed for 3 years in the PERFECT situation. WAY, WAYYYYY Lower. Feel like I'm playing cards with my Sister's kids... Sheesh. Countless examples for you to look at. Come on man.
Fact: Tyrone got a better deal than he rejected. The rejection was completely non-guaranteed for 4yrs, which means Morey has tipped his hand that he values House more, and you'd expect that higher current value to be House new Market minimum. Also, it's better to have 2yrs and then UFA freedom than that 4yr crap the Clippers first offered. That deal also makes him a great filler player in trades, thus he could likely get bounced around the league for 4yrs. I'm constantly confused why Fans always think longer deals are better...many players favor getting to UFA faster, vs taking insulting, **** offers.
The only advantage to taking a 3 year guarantee at the minimum is security or a player not having confidence in his skill set. House wasn’t offered enough for long term security and knows that he can likely find someone to offer him a deal at even 1 year, 3 million and that is better than what the Rockets offered. House knows even NBA scraps (3-4 million a season) makes a profound difference in his financial situation. This isn’t necessarily a case of a player being greedy... that small amount difference (in NBA standards) is enormous for House. I would likely be doing the same in his spot. If all else fails he can play in Europe or China.
