I KNEW IT....we tried to cheap him out, and he has proven he is a player in the league and will bet on himself and any team can pick him up. BTW - this more than ANYTHING will hurt this team, House is a KEY defensive player in the starting unit, he is KEY to the turnaround, particularly on D, and hitting his 3s....best 3pt shooter on the team lately. DD
OK, so why'd you ignore what Tyrone Wallace and Allonso Trier got. They are 2-ways, too. I mean, can you even find a 2-way who rejected a vet min, then failed to get one in the summer. This isn't a DMo scenario. It is a Wallace (low end) and Trier (end end) scenario with no example of failures, yet.
I think it is more about the money than NBA Finals. Money is known, but NBA Finals is unknown. IMO, 8th seed is the only chance to defeat GS in the playoffs. Fatigue and injury could happen again. GS are likely to be 1 seed.
Probably a part of the MLE - maybe a 3 year deal and 2m each and a team option at 3m for the third year. If they truly want to win in the Harden era...... DD
To be fair, the only players who take paycuts for the Warriors are established vets (generally speaking). Their young players, ie McCaw leave for paydays. I agree that Morey is doing the right thing here (he painted himself into a corner with Anderson’s huge contract) but I can definitely see why House would choose to be on himself.
HTF is me saying morey has lost his magic make me a homer. what you replied is pretty much irrelevant. house shoulve already known what to expect.
icymi: a few pages back, I posted math on that very offer of 3yrs at $2m-ish starting salary. It leaves enough of the MLE to pay a buyout candidate $6.6m this year (in non-prorated dollars), which is $4m more than teams like GSW could pay a 10yr vet. In real dollars, it's $1.9m for 40 more games...not counting playoff pay. Here's Bimathug's math on that same salary (using prorated calculations of 1 week ago). That $1m equals a $2.1m-ish starting salary.
We can still do this if we find there are no better options after the trade deadline and waiver period. Until then, it gives us a leg up on other contending teams who only have the vet min to offer like GSW. No telling who might be waived or bought out in the next month.
There is a concern that Rivers could leave this summer. He could get 1-year 8 million deal. Clearly Tilman is more focus on profit than Championship. It could take 2 Firsts to unload Knight contract in July.
Yeah I mean if he wants to gamble that's a much much better gamble. It's like gambling 1 dollar to win 5 dollars with 50% winning odds versus gambling 1 dollar to win 500 dollars 80% winning odds and he is taking the former. Even if $500 winning odds were at 20% or 10% u still take that over 50% chance to win 5. In this case it isnt, his chances of winning 500 is more than winning 5, he just needs to wait a little. Do you reject 5 dollars to potentially get 10 dollars now or do you accept the 5 dollars knowing u have a much better chance, than getting 10 now, to get 1000 dollars in two weeks. It makes no sense honestly. This is another selfish agent scenario who wants immediate higher commission
And 100% he would have rejected that. He wants to be a RFA and get more than that this off season. That’s why his agent is trying to just get the Rockets to just convert him for the remainder of the season.
Last summer, I believe that Harden can win 2 Championships next 4 years if Tilman really wanted to spend huge money. Now he is not willing to spend something like 5 million.
I mentioned Trier, I said that he's playing on a crap team that has cap space and minutes to spare. Tyrone Wallace got about the same deal the Rockets offered House. Do you think the Rockets deal is unfair? Probably because most 2-way players are going to jump at the deal in the first place. None of these guys were starting for playoffs teams either, so is their situation exactly like House's? I said it's like Dmo's situation because Dmo overvalued himself and when players like Dmo and Noel as you brought up find out other teams are not that interested in paying them what they think they are worth... I'm not sure what's to argue here. I don't think it'll work out for House and you are taking a neutral position. I think other teams won't value him as much as he thinks he'll be valued and he'll be fighting for another spot on another team while on this team he had a guaranteed spot and contract. You said that at 29 he won't get a big contract. I agree. But this is Danuel House we are talking about here, his days of making big contracts are over with...but he could have a decent NBA career and make decent (comparatively) money here right now. It's a risk, a pretty large risk. If betting on yourself can flame out for talented players like Dmo then it sure as hell could flame out for House.
If memory serves me correctly melo leaving was the start of defensive turnaround and house wasn’t even played back then. Right after he left there was a stretch of games against really good opponents that we held teams to like less than 100 points and went on a winning streak
That's right but my POV is just that the Rockets have to look out for themselves and House has to realize that the Rockets will look out for themselves. He's not going to win a staring match with Morey. Morey thought he could easily replace Ariza and...it turns out so far that Morey was right. Morey will think House is replaceable. I get him wanting more money but the team just doesn't have more money to offer him.
29 is middle of the prime of basketball career. To me it’s from 28-34. Now imagine in the middle of your prime coming off of two seasons of playing a big role on top 3 team in nba and getting a contract. He would get 1000% more than anything he may potentially get more this offseason for one year. It’s simple if u asked me. If he gets more this offseason, he isn’t going to get anything more than $3 million for two years and that’s a big IF (to me like a 10% chance) specially with rockets back being healthy, and he being out of the rotation, averaging 16 a game in G league lol
