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Trump's propaganda speech tonight

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Astrodome, Jan 8, 2019.

  1. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    The wall wasn't even the important part. The "Hillary just seems evil" part was. If it was about the wall the GOP would still own the house. You seem to think Trump won the popular vote.
     
  2. Bobbythegreat

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    Hillary was a supporter of walls before the orange man said he was....so you've got it backwards. This is merely "orange man bad" politics.
     
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    Yeah, like i said, she's was a flawed **** candidate and now that she can't be blamed Trump lost the House. They tried to convince people that Pelosi was Hillary during the midterms and it didn't work. It's never been about a stupid wall to the majority of Americans.

    The wall is Trump's Hamburger Hill.
     
  4. Bobbythegreat

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    Not just her though, Chuck Schumer was a supporter of border barriers before the orange man said he was....almost all Democrats were.

    As to Trump losing the house, it was a mid-term election, that's usually what happens only they just barely lost the house and gained seats in the Senate....at a time where people were talking about a "blue wave". Hardly something to gloat about.

    When it comes to a "stupid wall", almost no one was against securing the border with physical barriers before Trump said he was for it. Border Patrol, the people who actually have to do the job of securing the border have always supported it. The ONLY people who were against it before the orange man supported it and the DNC sent out talking points telling their people to flip flop were far left radicals who are anti borders and the illegal immigrants themselves who want to be able to just walk into the country.

    Of all the things the orange man supports, opposing this one is a loser for the DNC, I imagine it's only a matter of time before they realize it and send out different talking points causing yet another flip flop.
     
  5. BruceAndre

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    Let the triggering begin! :D
     
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    Well it definitely wasn't important to me, I think all of it is stupid.

    But it sure seemed important to his supporters that were chanting it. If you were so butt hurt about Francis O'Rourke or whatever using "Beto" on his signs, surely you have to respect and appreciate the power of the chant.

    It's amusing that you think you can determine when Trump spews his nonsensical rhetoric is "important" and when it is "not important."
     
  7. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    Opposing a wall Trump promised Mexico would pay for is a loser? When the deficit has grown faster on Trump's watch than on Obama's? When Trump and the GOP can't even get rid of Obamacare?

    LOL. This is like having a 3 year old try and con an adult in a Shell Game.

    It's a bad diversion from the diving stock market and healthcare. Trump blew his wad a year too early.

    He should have tried this before the primaries!
     
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    At least it wasn't premature triggering this time.
     
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    All you have to do is look at the caravan that was coming our way......that is a crisis. Maybe not WWIII, but it is a crisis.
     
  10. FranchiseBlade

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    No, you are either not understanding or being intentionally dishonest. There is a difference between "Everywhere along the border" and "Anywhere but Southern California." What was called immoral and what Trump wants is the "Everywhere" option.
     
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    Well I imagine some of the side effects of it were important to you though. Like artificially low wages due to essentially a 12 million strong slave class in the country....or perhaps all of the human trafficking of sex slaves matters to you BTW, Houston is one of the largest hubs for sex slavery in the western world. There are believed to be something like 300,000 sex slaves in Texas alone, many of them children....all of this is made possible by an unsecured southern border.

    There's a lot of reasons to care about the problems with an unsecured southern border and it's not "stupid". There are hundreds of thousands of people suffering as a direct result of the US not doing their job and securing the border and it seems that certain people only pretend to care about it when they think they can use it to bash the orange man. This has been a problem for decades now, it's time to finally do something about it.
     
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    Yeah, the difference is one is a half ass job, the other is something considerably more effective. Basically what you are saying here is that border barriers are fine, so long as they are half ass and ineffective. If you finish the job it becomes "immoral" because it would actually be effective.

    You do realize how that's a laughable position right?
     
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    You do realize it's laughable that you would accuse anyone else of holding a laughable position right?
     
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    Hahaha "maybe" not WWIII? C'mon man, hyperbole much?

    I also like how a specific Trump supporter asked others to look up the definition of crisis. Once others actually did, which fit how they were interpreting crisis, that kind of went away.

    Pro tip: do not ask others to look up the definition of a word if it will prove you wrong. That's not a good strategy.
     
  15. Bobbythegreat

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    Ah, a deflection because you know you're wrong. I'll take that as your version of admitting you are wrong and that the logically inconsistent DNC positions that you are trying to defend have tied you in knots.
     
  16. FranchiseBlade

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    1. I disagree that it was in any way a crisis.
    2. Building a wall across the entire border would have had zero effect on that caravan. The caravan was full of people coming to a legal port of entry to make a claim for refugee status. Building thousands of miles of a wall wouldn't have changed that at all.
     
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    It's a sign of me realizing that you are just spouting personal attacks and are being either intentionally dishonest or not understanding. I've responded with substance over and over again. I'm done.
     
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  18. BruceAndre

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    Not hyperbole and I didn't ask anybody to look up anything.
     
  19. Bobbythegreat

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    LOL personal attacks? When?

    Your comments are consistently divorced from reality and now you are lashing out at me because I called you on it.
     
  20. Nippystix

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    Relax brother, I never said it was you. Don't get all triggered on me now.
     
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