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Breaking: Trump's Wall

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Carl Herrera, Dec 18, 2018.

  1. NewRoxFan

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    Josh Barro suggested simply not showing... not giving trump the advance info whether or not to show, then show it the next day if anything newsworthy happens.

    Bill Kristol thinks Pelosi should ask for equal time and have two congressman, a republican and a Democrat like Will Hurd/Adam Kizinger and Allison Spanberger/Jimmy Panetta to present a joint response. Note, all four actually served in the military and speak against the wall.

    Asha Rangappa suggested showing the address one hour later with on-screen fact checking and total lies at the end.
     
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    A three way split with the camera showing the unwashed massed crossing the border (or not)?
     
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    I really think trump is tipping his hand by reordering his national emergencies and putting humanitarian first. He will show children being separated and dying in cages and say unless gets his vanity wall more kids will die.
     
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    Because of his policies.

    DD
     
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    dhs secretary nielsen repeats trump and shs's lie about terrorists and the southern border, despite the State Dept's report saying no credible information that any terrorists have come across the southern border... when the very people you need to trust with America's security are untrustworthy...

     
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    So, one a month....and that's just how many get caught. How many known or suspected terrorists does it take to be a problem?
     
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    I'd like to know what names those were.

    If the name is something like the noted terrorist "Jose Hernandez" I'm going to guess there might be some confusion about who is who. I'm sure when OBL crossed the border via Mexico, the first thing he did was give border patrol his real name and show them his official al Qaeda clubhouse ID card.

    Also, since the point is that a wall will just be circumvented, not sure what the relevance is. They build their wall and the flood of terrorists continues unabated.
     
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    And while they are providing details... what constitutes an encounter... notice they are careful to not say "captured", or "apprehended", or even "interviewed and released". And they don't say if the "encountered" person's name simply popped up on a list, whether it was a relative or simply a similar name.

    Meanwhile they previously lied by saying 4,000 terrorists, and even when challenged on that number (that the 4,000 referred to people at airports, not at the southern border), they lied again and said "Certainly a large number" of known or suspected terrorists come across the southern border". And that larger number turns out to be six.

    At this point the American people can not trust anything trump and his admin says about what is happening at the southern border.
     
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    So now dhs secretary nielsen comes out a new number... 3,000 "special interest aliens." These are simply people believed to be from a list of 35 countries. The numbers appear to be tilting back to the 4,000 people that have been encountered at airports. As trump and his admin spew out conflicting ("the exact number is extremely sensitive") and unbelievable numbers that have been questioned... Americans simply cannot believe anything they say.



    Case in point...
    Justice Department refuses to retract misleading report linking immigration and terror statistics
    https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/04/politics/justice-report-immigration-terrorism/index.html
     
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    Questions about dhs secretary statements have severely damaged dhs's integrity...

     
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    Watch vp pence's efforts to cover for trump's ridiculous lie about past presidents telling him they should have built the wall...

    Here's what trump said:
    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/01/04/trump-former-presidents-border-wall-1082562

     
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    This number is more consistent with number of current year (to date) reported...
    About a dozen people on terror watchlist encountered at southern border in fiscal year 2018
    https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/07/politics/terror-watch-list-southern-border/index.html
     
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    So, part of trump's news story about the crisis at the southern border will be spun around drugs coming into the country. And of course, lies...


     
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    LOL, they trot kellyanne (on fox news no less) to fact check and cover for sarah huckabee sander's ridiculous lies... "conflated", "unfortunate misstatements", "media cherry-picking mistakes", "everybody makes mistakes".

    Kellyanne Conway Corrects Sarah Sanders’ Border Terrorist Claim: ‘Unfortunate Misstatement’
    https://www.mediaite.com/uncategori...ist-claim-it-was-an-unfortunate-misstatement/
     
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    My brother in law used to get pulled aside every time he went through airport security for a few years because his name was the same as some Irish terrorist.
     
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    A former boss of mine had the same problem. John Johnson is apparently an IRA terrorist.
     

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